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Riot, you want buff lux?

Zerenza··55 votes·3,670 views

You know, that old old old mage that's still pretty solid a pick regardless of who she's against cause she can one shot people with her 30 second cooldown ultimate...yeah that lux?

Let me start by saying this, lux doesn't need a buff, she isn't OP and that's not what i'm saying. She's still viable but just because she isn't good in high ELO or LCS doesn't mean she needs a buff(to those saying she's bad at high ELO, a lot of champions are.). What lux needed was an update in the mage rework, she's a light mage but honestly only two MAYBE three abilties of her's actually make sense with her design. Like many demacian champions, she's outdated not a lot but enough to warrant looking at for a mini rework. Instead of flat number buff, cooldown changes and other things. Maybe just add more tools to her kit to make her seem less linear/one dimensional and offer more to a team, it should be noted that number's buffs made her broken in LCS not to long ago.

48 Comments

Dynikus24 votes

If lux builds full cdr, her ult will have a lower cd than it does in urf.

Arakadia9 votes

Unless they disable this buff in URF, she can have a 5 second cooldown on her ult.

Supreme Senpai691 votes

Lol it won't hit anyone in urf. Not with 2s mobility spells everywhere

AninLegions7772 votes

Only if she gets the reset .... who am I kidding, she will.

a Wild Niko1 votes

The lowest I can get it is 30 seconds.

Stanman07316 votes

I thought her ult CD was already too low at 30 secs but now Riot is going way over their heads now by giving her a 50% refund meaning 15 sec CD for an ult :/ I

DJMason882 votes

30%* And i think they increased the base cd.

Stanman0738 votes

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30%* And i think they increased the base cd.

It scales to 50% at lv 3 :/ [ If they are going through with this buff base CD need to go up for sure. http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/03/321-pbe-update.html#balance

Moosh5 votes

"Needs to go up for sure". No it really doesnt this change will definetly not make lux a top 5 mid probably not even a top 10 midlaner. This is why silvers shouldnt be in charge of balancing.

Jet Sett5 votes

This is why elitists shouldn't join champion discussions, they don't actually have any good input.

Seriously. do you have anything else to say other than "Lul bronze/silver/gold I am best" or "not even top 5 or 10" because everyone bitching about Lux has at least been throwing out those insane numbers she'll have late game, you're just here trying to discredit everyone instead of making your own points or giving SOLID reasoning.

ShaolinToilet2 votes

She is not going to have insane numbers. This buff will barley affect her but keep circlejerking till you see it does nothing

Jet Sett2 votes

It will do nothing? It will significantly reduce her ultimate cooldown if she kills someone, all she has to do is kill you once in lane and she get to reduce the window of opportunity you have to engage her as any champion who's damage doesn't also have 1000 units of range.

And like I said, can you give some reasoning because. surprisingly, you're coming with fewer points than the people circlejerking, you effectively have LESS ground to stand on than whining children.

I'll even take biased points at this point because all I'm getting here is "she won't be op because she won't, IDIOT!"

ShaolinToilet1 votes

Why would I try to reason with low elo players who can't dodge lux q

Jet Sett2 votes

I just thought I'd ask, most high elo players don't have game skill that scales inversely with their ability to reason, but you do and I'm sorry. I will also make a habit of not using compound words around you so as not to upset you.

Go on now, you can go play ranked with your friends while I talk with your English teacher about finding someone to tutor you in debates and reasoning.

ShaolinToilet1 votes

I'm not high elo but go ahead and and remember that I told you so when all this buff circlejerking dies out.

Leeerroy1 votes

You truely are the epitoome of a piece of shit.

ShaolinToilet1 votes

Was I wrong though

The Sword Saint1 votes

It's not going to have a significant impact because lux cannot hit a competent enemy laner with her ult without them being cc'd. Not ever. She has to land a binding first or have a teamate come gank. Even if she kills you with her ult and then comes back to lane still having her ult, it doesn't effect you at all really unless you let yourself get hit by her binding a second time or you get ganked a second time and locked down again.

In either of these cases where lux actually gets to make use of this 'op cooldown refresh' her enemy was already going to probably die anyway since they seem to be eating bindings or getting ganked over and over.

Once you consider the actual use cases for luxes ultimate as a combat spell instead of waveclear, it's easy to see that a cooldown on ult kill mechanic really doesn't add anything useful to her in lane, and at most is handy for cleaning up teamfights by picking off fleeing enemies... that is to say this buff is only useful when your team has already won a teamfight.

Jet Sett1 votes

First off, thank you for bringing a reasonable argument. Secondly, I don't think you understand how squishy the opponents of Lux can be. Personally I feel like it will give her immense lane dominance after a kill since it'll allow her to get her ultimate back up quicker and keep the kill pressure up.

The Sword Saint1 votes

If we were talking about someone like annie who can always threaten to walk up or flash and ult you that would be one thing, but this is lux. Her ult has no threat if she does not land an easily avoidable skillshot cc with a high cooldown early game, which also serves as her only real protection from ganks.

Stanman07315 votes

If Riot wants to make Lux a better champion in terms of support they should make her shield a bit more reliable or larger. They are going in the wrong direction again. If anything her ult is something that needs nerfs.

Zerenza4 votes

Exactly, she's SUPPOSED to be a light mage, but all of her abilties are the basis for every mage that came after her soooooo she basically just looks like an ordinary mage, cause she is despite the fact her ability is to control light

Lux: I demacian, i deal big damage, i give weak sheild sometimes that if buffed makes me OP, rito please give me 20 second ultimate.

BTW the last time they buffed her shield she was pick or ban, no more number's changes to lux, she's fine in terms of number's. It's her lack of ability to be distinguished from any other mage(cause she was the basis for all of them) that makes her bad, other mages have things that add on to their damage or CC it's not just one, the other or both.

Stanman0734 votes

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Exactly, she's SUPPOSED to be a light mage, but all of her abilties are the basis for every mage that came after her soooooo she basically just looks like an ordinary mage, cause she is despite the fact her ability is to control light

Lux: I demacian, i deal big damage, i give weak sheild sometimes that if buffed makes me OP, rito please give me 20 second ultimate.

BTW the last time they buffed her shield she was pick or ban, no more number's changes to lux, she's fine in terms of number's. It's her lack of ability to be distinguished from any other mage(cause she was the basis for all of them) that makes her bad, other mages have things that add on to their damage or CC it's not just one, the other or both.

Then instead of theses stupid nerfs and buffs why dont they give her a full rework

MrryZ1 votes

Because other champions need it more urgently.

Votable Jester2 votes

Lux's shield really feels garbage when using it for yourself in lane though. I do wish they'd maybe make it a little stronger for just herself than this other pointless buff.

Also this buff would 99% result in a damage nerf, which I really don't want. If you can't burst people as Lux, you become a lot less useful.

BladeSingularity1 votes

Buffing it for when it only touches her ... not a bad idea.

Maybe make the second application shield a bit more once it returns to her?

Supreme Senpai691 votes

Said this on another thread but they should just revert her W nerf they did awhile back when "LUX IS OP" was the circlejerk going around. (Though she was a bit too strong lol.) Just letting her have the full shield as soon as she uses it would do wonders. Instead of this half now half later bullshit. Pretty sure the CD starts when her shield comes back, too, but can't confirm.

Plus it's so insanely difficult to use on allies. It's the one skillshot that my ADC can dodge consistently. Maybe make its hitbox wider.

And no ult buffs :[

ModAcademy Kayn5 votes

I love all these don't buff Lux posts that don't actually provide proof to why Lux isn't weak.

Ok sure but why3 votes

Light mage? She's just an ordinary mage.

Arakadia2 votes

She's a light mage from my understanding. Or she is shitty at most things but light because thats what she focuses on.

Ok sure but why2 votes

i just quoted her

that's a joke, damn

Arakadia1 votes

,> welp

SoyUnPrededor2 votes

its also a touhou reference. Well, pretty much everything about lux is a touhou reference including the original name for her ult.

Anu3isII3 votes

High Elo being Gold+? Gold is barely above average...

SoyUnPrededor4 votes

Silver 4 is average, actually.

Supreme Senpai693 votes

He probably thinks since gold is the middle tier it has 50% of the playerbase. Bronze Silver Gold Platinum Diamond

But yeah like 70% of people are either silver or bronze. Gold is the top 30%.

Anu3isII1 votes

No, I actually thought it was around Silver 2. I personally never felt a big difference between High Silver players and Low-Gold players, so I assumed Gold isn't that much more advanced than the average.

I understand my mistake, but it is clear that Lux is underperforming in Gold+ (outside of Euw, she has 46% Winrate with decent Playrate) and doing well in Bronze/Silver. If there is no way she can be buffed to reward experienced players without making her a 54% Winrate and 20% Pickrate (because most of the playerbase will abuse her, especially in lower tiers), then I don't really see what they can do other than rework her.

Her current buff on the PBE rewards her for using her Ultimate to execute people. This will only help when A) I snipe an enemy champion or B) I land my Q on a squishy champion after I bought a few items. The first situation is a risky one, the opponent being able to dodge/move out of my Ultimate, while the second one implies using my best defensive for a Proactive play, which again is High Risk/High Reward. This makes me think it rewards more the skilled players than the average one.

I prefer a buff to riskier patterns of her kit than just straight out buff her Passive-Aggressive Playstyle of poking with E all game long.

SoyUnPrededor1 votes

I wouldn't mind a buff like this coupled with making here combo more delayed, or require more for the optimal situation. As is, if she can land a Q, she can dump her full combo on you, and potentially even a few autos depending on how far away you're rooted.

Something slightly more like would I would like to see is lux's root scaling its duration based on how close the target is to lux, so she'll get only a .75 or maybe 1 second root at max range, but within the closest say, 400 range (slightly over a third) it would root for 2.25 seconds, then make her ult take 1.25 or 1.5 seconds to go off instead of 1 as it is currently, increase the AP ratio from .75 to .9 or so as compensation, and add this refund to ult cooldown if it kills.

Now, obviously I just kinda threw numbers out there to give a sense of what I envision, but the idea is to include more differentiation of skill on behalf of the Lux player rather than: throw Q's until one lands while harassing with E through minions. Finally land q -> full combo -> dead enemy, or forced them back, repeat again 30 seconds later cause your ult is back up.

LOSINGISMYPRIDE2 votes

http://i.imgur.com/hrYQS5h.gif

Arakadia5 votes

Wasn't even that long lol.

h5LYF41Lam2 votes

Shes outclassed by 70% of the midlane champion pool. Playing against zed or talon is just a joke as lux,you can be 3/0 in lane but as long as they build edge of night youre useless you have to waste your e on the spellshield and hit your q to even have a CHANCE to survive. Lux instead of being high risk high reward is high risk no reward,on the botlane she is a trash support with 45% winrate on the midlane youre flipping a coin,heads you get to play against another ap mage and have a chance of winning tales you get to play against zed or talon and you autolose lane.

h5LYF41Lam1 votes

all in all both in competitive play and casual play even in the artilery class shes clearly inferior to jhin/varus mid. You keep calling Lux a "solid pick" and strong yet even in her own class she strikes 3rd.

Meritas1 votes

Her Ultimate skin pretty much confirmed she's not getting a rework for years ahead, probably even minor ones.

TwinkiePro1 votes

Let her W apply and proc her passive. That way, she doesn't look stupid throwing it at the enemies and not her team.

PlsTouchMeGently1 votes

K, Lux cannot one-shot people from full health. She's strong, don't get me wrong, but that's an excessive use of hyperbole.

SociopathFriend1 votes

Bear in mind- this is likely a way of Riot responding to the common complaint that Lux uses her ult for waveclear. Nerfing the cooldown will hurt her winrate, but alleviate this issue. Rewarding Lux players for NOT ulting the wave will not hurt her winrate, but will alleviate this issue.

Also, it literally JUST showed up and people are so up in arms, wait a bit to see whether additional changes follow- how many times has Riot actually shipped something sicut scriptum est? (Just as written?)

Iced Tea No lce1 votes

You want sum fuc?

Fiuabinha1 votes

IF riot buff lux again...ill never play lol until nerf

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