when everyone is max build... who is strongest/ weakest in your opinion?

SwiftKitten88·Mar 24, 2017·1 votes·784 views

Who are the weakest and strongest champs with their normal max build when everyone has max items?

obviously we have the scaling champs like who doesn't need a boots slot and therefor can get an entire extra item worth we have lategame staking monsters like and and we have champs like , , and

as for weakest lategame champs we have ones who scale horribly with the normal items they buy like

what other champs have significantly bad or very oppressive late game max builds?

i am not making ANY balance opinions or suggestions in this post i am currently only asking this because i am unfamiliar with EVERY champion.

this is a "gathering data" post not an "opinion post"

24 Comments

IncognonymousMar 24, 20172 votes

Kayle. In virtually every role, she's virtually unbeatable at 6 items. The question becomes not "can I kill Kayle", but "how many will die to kill her."

FioraWillCarryMar 25, 20171 votes

Kayle main here. While yes, she is strong late game, she is far from the strongest. She has a lot of trouble dealing with tanky teams in the late game. She can melt a single tank very very quicky with the right build but a charging death ball of tanky champs rolling at her, she is just food. She just can't melt them fast enough and she can't kite through all the ranged CC(Naut hook, Amumu bandage etc) and kill them before one of them lands and she gets exploded.

Vayne is a far stronger 6 item champ than Kayle. Vayne in my opinion is by far the strongest 6 item champ in this game.

sit kidMar 24, 20172 votes

My favourite: Azir

Just fits the ideals of teamfighting. R gives alot of selfpeel as well of his E being a great escape and maybe engage as well? Super long poke range and hugh damages

SwiftKitten88Mar 24, 20171 votes

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My favourite:

Just fits the ideals of teamfighting. R gives alot of selfpeel as well of his E being a great escape and maybe engage as well? Super long poke range and hugh damages

i forgot about him... your right though.. he may share a a trash tier 42% winrate with nidalee but late-game he really does lose that and become a monster.

sit kidMar 24, 20171 votes

I still have plenty of fun with him (haven't played ranked in multible months tho), and yea they nerfed him pretty hard, most of the nerfs targeted on his mid game. He recovers late though, and gets to deal insane damage as he did before

RalanrMar 24, 20171 votes

Pantheon is probably the weakest champion at full build.

Sure he can burst someone, but he's going to die contributing only that if he even succeeds.

DryditchMar 24, 20171 votes

What about Olaf? He's basically an anti-scaling champion

RalanrMar 24, 20171 votes

Eh, his ultimate helps him not fall off.

DryditchMar 24, 20171 votes

Fair enough.

Y'know who does feel useless when everyone's at full build, though?

Aatrox

doodlebob666Mar 25, 20171 votes

Y'know who does feel useless all the time though?

FTFY

DryditchMar 25, 20171 votes

Except that Aatrox's level 1-3 are actually not the worst in the game.

Roam SupportMar 24, 20171 votes

teemo is the weakest full build hands down.

SwiftKitten88Mar 24, 20171 votes

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teemo is the weakest full build hands down.

10/10 for sarcasm

Roam SupportMar 25, 20171 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/0VQe5b7r-teemo-in-ranked-play

I was serious , you mean to tell me it's late game 5v5 ranked your versus a typical team of tank,support,adc, burst mid , fill champ .. versus this team who would you remove from your team in order to put teemo in it ???? Anyone you replace teemo with would hurt your team thus teemo is worst champ at full build

Live2LetDieMar 24, 20171 votes

Ryze is a late game monster if he starts hitting his targets. Not hard to get Pentas on that champ late game. GP is another penta killer if he hits his barrels. Kog and trist are both hyper carries late game. Fiora and trynd are near impossible to solo late game during their split.

Yi, yas, and xin I would say all fall off at 6 items compared to others. Champs that die off late are early assassins, talon, rengar, eve, etc..