Evelynn's Ravage; The most outdated skill , a plea

Dominick Destine··1 votes·775 views

Ravage has been reworked several times, however the core concept of "Melee range attack ability" has remained.

Originally it was an ultra close range ability that reduced MR and armor. Then it was changed to do a double strike (No on-hit effects) but did magic damage. Then it was changed to PHYSICAL damage but didn't apply on-hit effects. Then it finally got changed to apply on-hit effects.

All of this said; None of this changed the core premise of Evelynn's worst skill, it does low damage (Comparatively speaking), has very low range, is delayed and carries with it almost no utility (ASPD).

Change this garbage ability, I would rather have literally any other ability in the game in place of Ravage

9 Comments

WoonStruck1 votes

Change her passive or W and its much more likely to happen.

Niyumi1 votes

Uh... what? Worst skill? Her E alone can nuke 70% of a carry's health if you're fed.

Nice to hear feedback from someone who doesn't even play Eve.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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Nice to hear feedback from someone who doesn't even play Eve.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/25317193 http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/67921488#profile

1- You're bronze (It's the same thing) 2- You do not play Evelynn. 3- I do play Evelynn and have more overall Evelynn matches than you have matches on all your characters put together. 4- You are a [Word]

Your argument was complete garbage.

Niyumi1 votes

I have ~53k mastery on Eve. That's quite a few games.

And, in those games, I can walk up to an ADC, E+Q, and do almost all of their health, if not all of it. So...

But hey, keep touting your rank and ignoring everything I say, it means something.

Looked at your games, and it's no wonder you do no damage. Why in the hell would you build a Wit's End on Eve? You're an ASSASSIN, not a sustained fighter. Echoes > Sorc Boots > Sheen > a Short Sword > Lichbane > Gunblade > Abyssal > Dead Man's. Bam, now your E one-shots carries.

Dominick Destine1 votes

I guess I will have to take you to school....

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I have ~53k mastery on Eve. That's quite a few games.

You're a bronzie.

And ... my PC is not properly loading the image but, bitch please.... 350k + here, I've been playing Evelynn since the days of S1 4 Sunfire Cape Troll stalk Evelynn. I know my character well.

And, in those games, I can walk up to an ADC, E+Q, and do almost all of their health, if not all of it.

You are bronze. I could build 6 Infinity Edge as Gragas in Bronze and still win.

But hey, keep touting your rank and ignoring everything I say, it means something.

Diamond Pride and Bronze Chaos are not the same thing.

They are very different games.

Looked at your games, and it's no wonder you do no damage. Why in the hell would you build a Wit's End on Eve?

I dislike answering questions like that because the answer should be obvious to anyone with even a slight modicum of skill.... but I will answer your pointless question; When the enemy team has extremely heavy magic damage (Ex: 4 AP characters and an Ezreal or Corki), I will build Abyssal Scepter and Wit's End to give me a massive edge against everyone on their team except the ADC which I can assassinate anyway if I catch them out of position.... regardless of my MR stacking the ADC will fall easily .... this works doubly well against ADCs like Ezreal that stack armor but continually have poor MR... and still very effective against popular ADCs like Lucian that will stack crit at the expense of survivability. The grand scale -73 MR means that while I will do good damage against all of them, they will do poor damage against me, add to this Gunblade and it is a losing battle for the enemy team.

Also for the most part I stopped building pure assassin awhile back because anti assassin items were buffed across the board (Ex: Mercurial Scepter, Maw of Malmortius, Sterak Gage (Added)) etc.... doing a hybrid build has yielded better results since then.

You're an ASSASSIN, not a sustained fighter.

While Evelynn is marked as an assassin, she has never had the tools of a typical assassin. She has zero disables and only a meager slow, she has no way in or out aside from just walking away. Conversely someone like Zed has multiple flashes built into his kit, a reliable AoE slow and an execute on low HP targets.... or look at Talon who has a clear way in and a clear way out.

Evelynn has none of these. She has always been more of a "Really fast duelist" than a straight-up assassin... and with the buffing of all other assassins while simultaneously NERFING Evelynn and buffing anti assassin items, it made her straight assassin build weaker and weaker.

Echoes > Sorc Boots > Sheen > a Short Sword > Lichbane > Gunblade > Abyssal > Dead Man's. Bam, now your E one-shots carries.

That's a garbage build.... then again, Evelynn is more about positioning and timing than items.

But I wouldn't expect someone in your bracket to follow. Evelynn's build works best when its reactive... as in, based on what you're playing against. Flexibility is one of Evelynn's very few benefits and because they've saddled her with nerfs; it is necessary to exploit as much as possible.

Best KhaZix Void1 votes

Warwick's kit is the most outdated thing in the game right now.

Quepha1 votes

If your problem with the spell is its power level then your problem isn't with the spell itself but how much of Evelynn's power budget is placed in that spell which is a completely different issue.

Most of Evelynn's kit is garbage for a reason, and that reason is her passive.

Caraméla1 votes

not true at all, i kinda main eve lately, i've seen some guides etc and i gotta say in the right hands she is a really good and unique jungler. her passive is amazing, it might just need some tweaks and her kit totally fits it yet that too needs some mini rework. overall her playstyle is unique and impatful if u know how to play her Evelynn

Quepha1 votes

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not true at all, i kinda main eve lately, i've seen some guides etc and i gotta say in the right hands she is a really good and unique jungler. her passive is amazing, it might just need some tweaks and her kit totally fits it yet that too needs some mini rework. overall her playstyle is unique and impatful if u know how to play her Evelynn

Not once in my post did I imply that Eve was bad. I said a lot of her kit sucks. Her ult sucks for an ult, her E sucks for a nuke, her W sucks as a mobility skill, and her Q sucks as a dps skill. But Eve does not suck because there is one more important part to her kit that makes it so every other part of her kit has to suck or else she breaks the game.

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