- Your playstyle is basically how annoying can you be. Super linear and boring for such a goofy character. Not fun to play as or against.
- Outdated model, tons of bugs, insanely clunky, and a lot can be done with a "Metal King of Death".
- Downright aggravating to play against. He wins lane based entirely on right clicking and luck, super linear, every aspect of his kit is annoying to deal with.
l Helios l27 votes
Cowseed3 votesIn that order please
l Helios l8 votes#makeireliagreatagain
Barcid5 votes"Again"?
RavenMagus5 votesGoing to second that Cho suggestion, his entire concept of "builds full tank, has 8 million HP, and one shots you with true damage" is pretty toxic to play against
HaIlMonitor8 votesHow is Irelia outdated? Her kit is simple, but powerful even though she isn't always #1 meta pick she beats the scourge of the top lane.
Ralanr28 votesBecause Irelia basically punishes you for winning trades.
Ahristocats6 votesby the logic olaf also punishes you for winning trades
ChaosThief3 votesI think the difference is one has to actually stay in your face and chase you down.
Durzaka4 votesAnd Irelia doesnt need to stay in your face? Since when?
ChaosThief6 votesIrelia has an easier time sticking to your face than olaf. Olaf has CC immunity but still has to run up to you, he also only has slows and his passive punishes you if you keep trying to fight him in melee range.
Irelia, on the other hand, punishes you if you're at a lower %hp and stuns, she doesn't need to go for extended trades as much as olaf.
Durzaka3 votesIrelia has a single dash, and a single slow or stun.
Olaf has a perma slow to stick to you.
Olaf can stick just as well as irelia, if not better.
Irelia doesnt win in short trades, unless those short trades are the length of her true damage buff, because she needs all of those hits to actually beat people early on.
Miraweave7 votesPartly because her E is a really stupid ability, and partly because she completely fails to deliver on the whole "telekenetic blade weilder" thing.
l Helios l5 votesIrelia is a stat stick with a clunky E that has no clarity to it. Plus her ult is basically just used for sheen procs.
Vallalan13 votesIrelia has long been a stat check in the top lane. she basically just gets a few levels in her W and then stuns you and melts you. once she gets trinity there are VERY few champs who can deal with her in a 1 v 1, but at the same time she's pretty shitty in team fights. sure she can dive the adc blow em up, but she is likely to instantly die after as she has no real "fighter" traits that make her bruisery besides the tenacity. she has no survivability in a team fight.
she is also super boring. point and click Q, point and click stun. random ass 4 skill shot ult that slightly heals you. and a W that buffs your auto attacks?
so 3 of her abilities are point and click. she is either going to get ahead and stomp you, or fall behind and be useless. its like old fiora, only not quite as toxic.
Megagon9 votesvery few champs who can deal with her in a 1v1
etc
Junkο1 votesIrelia and Cho'gath are fine IMO.
Cho'gath still has a big niche. Really all he needs is an E that isn't useless, the new one isn't that good either.
l Helios l6 votesBoth can also deliver on their thematics much better with a VGU. Cho needs to be a devourer of worlds, not an ugly dinosaur thing, and Irelia needs to feel like a graceful warrior with telekenetic blades going all over the place. That's my biggest hope anyway for both of them. Neither, I think, is terrible, it's just they could be so much more. Kind of like my boy Aatrox too.
Okami15 votes
these are the champs that need either a VGU, VU, or GU. i might have missed one or 2 but this is just my opinion i guess.
Divewing22 votesYou forgot Ryze
PrinceOfStorms1 votesVlad's in a pretty good spot gameplay wise after he got a GU in the mage update. If anything he's a tad weak and could use either buffs to his base MS (to 350, from 335) or range increases on his Q and E.
Okami5 votesnah, he doesn't need buffs, he's in a really good spot. 350 ms? hell no that would be way too much. i put him in that list cause he needs a VU, nothing else.
Bârd2 votesEh, he looks decent. Other champions need a new model more.
A new splash and VO are the only things he needs badly.
Junkο2 votesHe still needs a VU though. His voice lines are just a bunch of blood puns, and his lore is probably outdated.
Succubús GF2 votesWhy akali?
Karakot14 votespeople sitting here not realizing will probably be next, reav3 has dropped so many hints about it on reddit now.
Steelflame2 votesNot only that, all of the recent champions have interactions with Swain. I wouldn't be surprised if the next new champ and Eve also get Swain interactions. It's fairly obvious that we are building up a Noxus/Ionia thing again at the moment, with how much emphasis these two factions are getting.
BoilTheOil3 votesswain doesn't need it as bad as other champions though
Junkο5 votesSwain is almost Pantheon's level of uninteractive to lane against though. He just trades burst for being immortal past level 6 and actually having some use late game. He also still has shit tier mana costs compared to most mages.
The 14th Angel12 votes
DoktorKaiser11 votesI would argue that Nunu is by far the worst looking champ as well, his in game model is laughable.
Chembaron Yamada3 votes I think that guy is worse...
Arakadia5 votesZilean takes 3rd place imo. His beard looks like a fucking eldritch appendage.
L Psy Kongroo10 votes
neeko is not gay2 votesDefinitely a vu maybe a tweaked kit, ult is gold, fear is gold rest feels out of place for a scarecrow but I really like fiddlesticks either way
Sukishoo10 votesAatrox is NOT a VGU. Stop putting him on the same listing as the others. Aatrox is a GU.
Ez dePaz2 votesIt's confirmed as the biggest GU ever, the kit changes will be as big as the VGU standard.
DemiluniS8 votesIt doesn't matter, the team working on him is the team that did the roaster updates, not one of the vgu teams. So the aatrox update and the next after urgot and eve will be worked on simultaneously
Cryo007 votes Imo needs one. Outdated model, and his theme doesn't really fit the huge demonic Raven thing that he should have. His kit is as linear as it can get too. Land your abilities hit R and run circles around their team.
Lintu Puck7 votes"Aww who am I kidding? Let's just morph and eat them!"
Chembaron Yamada7 votes Worst in game model of all. He looks more like a comic character than a champion of the league of legends. His kit is extremely outdated, he just has 1 skillshot and the rest are passive effects you can activate on demand. Gets completely shut down by grevious wounds.
Unfortunately he is a Zaunite, therefore he won't get the rework soon...
Sightless666 votesI like how Skarner is so unpopular that he isn't remembered even in a thread about which champions need changes.
Clayblob22 votesTrue!!! But one thing...you forogot about
Aaotrox again and skarner, because Aaotrox loosesviability once he uses his two abilities.
Aaotrox dives in--> kills one or two people before dying->Dies->Runs away->Dies
Or Dives->Tries to kill the backline-> gets stunned by a catlin trap (While flying)->Then gets cc'd by a lux, brand,yasua,gragus,oriona (All champs with cc)-> Then E's and misses-> then attempts to run away because he failed his q ->Tries to run -> ults to pop bloodwell ->Dies (pops bloodwell) -> revives, get stunned -> Dies -> and if he has GA Revives- ->get bursted or stunned dies
My point is, once Aaotrox gets out ran by his enemies. Thats it, gg he has no more mobility spells or poke damage. How is an Aaotrox suppost to chase lux, or catlin, or jhin when more than half the time 4/5 ppl in the team has a stun. Cc shuts down Aaotrox's kit mega. Imagine what happens when viegar E's Aaotrox
Aaotrox needs to be able to fight while in the middle of a battle,so that he can feed off of all his enemies blood. Like a real succumbus
ShishouMatt2 votesAatrox's dive is only an illusion that he leaves the ground.
Clayblob23 votesLol i get it😲 cus his wings are fake and have no use right?
