Why are champs like Yasuo/Lee so damn feared?

Trash MammaI··2 votes·713 views

Yasuo I can understand being annoying but by no means is he as broken as everyone keeps whining about. Singed stomps him, malz stomps him, panth stomps him, garen stomps him, darius stomps him the list just goes on forever.

Lee is said to be the best jungler in the game (or at least top 5) He gets absolutely murdered by udyr,trundle,elise can beat him (more of a skill matchup tbh) like i'm not understanding if people are just bad at this game or if i'm missing something.

Whenever I see lee or yasuo I know it's a free lane for me because they have certain picks that just eliminate them

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SchmidttyGames3 votes

When they are on the enemy team, they are usually gods who just roll over your laners.

When they are on your team, they are usually scrubs that feed like a soup kitchen.

DoktorKaiser2 votes

Yasuo is unfun to play against as a melee (except those you already mentioned) because of his dash in - free knockup - trade few autos - slide away and he is unfun to play against mid because of stupid free shield and windwall (especially this one) which destroys both poke and heavy burst champions (again except few counters). Only bronzies will call him broken (he does however share a problem with vayne, his early is too good for his late game), but the fact is that I would rather die to a very slow and painful cancer if I never had to lane against him again.

Lee on the other hand is just broken af most of the time, RITO refuses to nerf him because of "LCS experience" making him even more hated. He also has a huge problem of having literally 0 counters early game, unless another jungler is broken he will easily beat anyone with his retarded mobility, dps, burst, sustain, shields and high base movement speed. Yes his late game is kind of meh, not even that bad as his mains would like you to believe, but his early game is so retarded that a good Lee can solo carry the team without much effort in this stupid snowball meta...

When you look at the 2 champions (you can also add Riven here) the problem is obvious, resourceless champions (whoever says Lee is gated by energy deserves a punch in the face) with extreme mobility, strong at all stages of the game, can only be beaten with counterpicks and on top of all - their mains are the worst scum in this community, not saying there arent normal ones but a very high % are toxic crybaby ragers.

Trash MammaI2 votes

I can unerstand what you mean. I guess since I usually hard counter them and being in low gold/high silver elo most aren't great for me to see the issues he's causing. I will however admit much like gangplank/riven/ etc. those two are pretty damn overloaded. More-so yasuo than lee. Lee just needs more realistic cd's.

DraconicPsycho1 votes

trundle? do people actually play trundle? ive never seen one in game.

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

did you notice how all the champs you say stop them are very bad at carrying the game lol.

This is why ppl don't like these champs

Trash MammaI1 votes

I've seen Trundles become neary unkillable, Udyr does a retarded amount of damage with tiger early on easily securing his team a lead if played properly, Singed usually carries by annoying the enemy team so if his team loses he stalls a game out long enough by just being around so they can catch up. Nobody is bad at carrying games. (I've done it with urgot) As bad as a champ may be (Aatrox, aurelion sol) they can still carry easily if played right. Some just require less work than others

ScissorsNstuff1 votes

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I've seen Trundles become neary unkillable, Udyr does a retarded amount of damage with tiger early on easily securing his team a lead if played properly, Singed usually carries by annoying the enemy team so if his team loses he stalls a game out long enough by just being around so they can catch up. Nobody is bad at carrying games. (I've done it with urgot) As bad as a champ may be (Aatrox, aurelion sol) they can still carry easily if played right. Some just require less work than others

unkillable != takes down objectives in extreme scenarios reliably

BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votes

I think people are more annoyed that Lee is always being buffed for the sake of LCS

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