Unlike BoRK, Kindred's passive on-hit can't lifesteal, isn't capped vs monsters, minimizes at 640 HP

MealReadytoEat·Oct 21, 2015·3 votes·2,023 views

I think this, Aatrox's W, and J4's passive are the only physical damage on-hits that don't proc lifesteal, and I'm fairly certain it is the only %HP in the game not capped vs monsters.

Her on-hit deals 1.25% current HP in physical damage, with a minimum of 8 damage per stack - that means against anyone with less than 640 HP, it deals damage as if they had 640 HP. The minimum damage IS NOT in the tooltip, but is very evident in game.

11 Comments

junglerboy16Oct 21, 20153 votes

It is actually capped vs monsters at 75 as confirmed by Meddler , and if the cap isn't working, it's a bug.

They didn't ever say there was a minimum amount or if there is what that amount was hasn't been disclosed, so your guess is as good as any.

Applying/not applying lifesteal is probably a balance decision, because for a jungle champ who is already really good against Baron and Dragon late game, giving her more sustain might be too much.

MealReadytoEatOct 21, 20152 votes

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It is actually capped vs monsters at 75 as confirmed by Meddler , and if the cap isn't working, it's a bug.

I'm well aware that it was meant to be capped, but it never functioned. Its uncapped, I can promise you.

The minimum damage is interesting. I wasn't expecting it, but its very clearly there as well. I guess I need to take a video. It's like Mundo's q - it does the higher total of a flat amount, or a % current hp.

Zair UmbrasOct 21, 20153 votes

It hasn't been capped... ever. They said it was supposed to be 75, but it's never actually been capped. I've done ranked recently with a guy who went Kindred and near four shot baron at the 20 minute mark when it spawned.

MealReadytoEatOct 21, 20152 votes

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It hasn't been capped... ever. They said it was supposed to be 75, but it's never actually been capped. I've done ranked recently with a guy who went Kindred and near four shot baron at the 20 minute mark when it spawned.

Oh yea, she can duo baron 20 minutes nearly any game. Solo baron is a little more difficult, do to the 50% damage reduction, but its still doable.

junglerboy16Oct 22, 20151 votes

Well that's an awkward goof on Riot's end, I was wondering why Kindred scaled so hard into late game.

dangopeeOct 22, 20152 votes

denting blow damage doesn't proc lifesteal unfortunately.

IcyPepperOct 22, 20152 votes

I dunno, even as a semi-Vi main, I got to say that's probably a good thing. If denting blows dealt percent health, reduced armor, increased attack speed, and proc'd lifesteal it would give her way too much synergy with BORK and perhaps devourer. Ganks would be even more deadly. And unlike some champs, her W passive scales with AD.

THE RlVER KlNGOct 21, 20151 votes

Makes sense. Otherwise lifesteal would be insane on her- she'd be healing for a percentage of her targets' HP as well as he own AD.

MealReadytoEatOct 21, 20152 votes

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Makes sense. Otherwise lifesteal would be insane on her- she'd be healing for a percentage of her targets' HP as well as he own AD.

I mean, it's about on par with Bork's on-hit for damage, and that life steals just fine. Now admittedly, it isn't capped on monsters right now, so it would be broken against dragon and baron, but only slightly more than it currently is.