Dark Harvest and conqueror should be reworked or deleted.

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Every one shot champ takes dark harvest and proceeds to - you guessed it one shot all game long. And conqueror just makes champs like irelia/jax/yasuo etc. hard to deal with and they don't need the extra true dmg.

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Buff Riven Plz6 votes

Conq should just be fervor. with everyone doing true damage it’s pretty difficult to balance and it’s not fun.

KingBlackthorn15 votes

I think Dark Harvest needs to be reverted. It was much more tolerable, but now everyone is using it. I do not really see an issue with conquer though

ADC Yuumi4 votes

Conqueror statistic wise doesn't benefit Irelia or Yasuo as much as it does on someone like Fiora.

And a simple way to counter DH users? Have a tank on your team. Stop trying to play 5 assassins every game maybe.

Mr Elessar6 votes

In what lane do you put that tank?

Slythrin Umbreon2 votes

support

gabetheguy1 votes

support, top, or jungle

TheWizardM8 votes

Tanks get oneshot also. I played Lux with DH recently, and when I hit lvl 11 I could literally oneshot everyone on the enemy team, including their two tanks (and no I was not ridiculously fed by any means)

Free Roll4 votes

Old dark harvest was just fine just revert from this stupid version where once you get below 50% everyone procs it on you and you instantly poof.

Malak3 votes

People complaining about DH but not Electrocute which does more damage on a shorter cooldown unless you have 20 stacks...

Assassin bias is strong

Blackii71 votes

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People complaining about DH but not Electrocute which does more damage on a shorter cooldown unless you have 20 stacks...

Assassin bias is strong

Shorter CD? But it doesn't reset. And no, you don't need 20 stacks to match Electrocute damage all game, it is just mid game. Since you know, dark harvest does more damage than electrocute early game. With the chance of a reset, and it doesn't need 3 abilities to proc. therefore with certain champions it is even more broken. (Pyke's ult, Veiger's ult, Syndra's Ult etc...) Let alone that the only position that doesn't benefit from the new Dark Harvest is the position the rune was originally created for. Using dark harvest as a jungler feels so bad, slow stacking and very inefficient.

DM For Rat Facts3 votes

conqueror is the only non burst/poke rune in the game. removing it would be really unhealthy for top lane.

sm1rk13 votes

rework it into fervor boom done

Shablagoo3 votes

Non burst? Have you played against Jax or Irelia? They seem to burst as fast as assassins.

BrightWîngs1 votes

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Zaghyr3 votes

Dark harvest just needs to be removed. Whether you have the current version or the old version, it is utterly toxic for the game. An infinitely stacking high damage burst keystone has no place in this game because it takes away from the things that makes this game fun, turns everyone into an assassin, assassins lose their identities and require no skill, and there is no counterplay to it. It needs removed.

FTGlory2 votes

I approve this.

JarodDempsey2 votes

honestly idk how they though conqueror would be a good idea like they gave champs who were already strong a bunch of true damage? riot logic "great idea" smh. Also not a fan of dh, it is game ruining on some champs and should probably be deleted though the high damage meta we are in really exacerbates it

Spicy Rice1 votes

They gave a bunch of champs who got shafted a decent keystone.

Answer when they suddenly were able to do as well as they had been before season 8, everyone lost their minds

Abuse me2 votes

Conqueror is necessary. Dark harvest was busted since it was created, noone realized it until everyone could use it not just kill heavy junglers.

NuggetMilk1 votes

Old dh was pretty weak early, you had to reach a certain amount of stacks to give it any kind of noticeable damage. I think they should've reduced it's scaling with ad/ap instead of creating this monster

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