How to fix all of Ornns current problems.

Skorch··1 votes·649 views

You know so many people are caught up in the Runes talk that people just kinda forgot about Ram man.

So I finally got the IP for Ornn and in my first game I can see some glaring issues. And after these (and the "buffs I guess" on the PBE) Note a few of these are more feel good buffs thatll probably help and make him feel better to play.

The biggest issue with Ornn is the fact that he is a non-factor in lane even the truest of tanks can out trade him HEAVILY. He can be kinda hard to kill if you are a Riven or Renekton or what have you, him being so tanky and all. But you sure as hell dont have to worry about dying to him no matter how badly you screw up.

Q: This ability does a fair amount of damage, however I feel like toning back the Scaling off of 1.0 to 0.8 in terms of more base would help Ornn being a tank and all.


W: This ability is pretty much okay, the only thing I would maybe look at changing is allowing him to turn it. Getting locked in slow stomping movement in 1 direction just kinda feels... weird? You can still make him have the super slow walk.

The only issue i see with this is avoiding his brittle would be a bit harder. But at the same time the fact you can avoid it by walking behind him with anything kinda sucks. But this is the most iffy of all changes, this is just an "IMO" thing and really doesnt need to be changed.


E: The worst ability. First of all why doesnt the initial charge count as like a minor displacement (At least I dont think) Im not talking Draven stand aside levels. But just a little something against champions. Like a trundle pillar push so that they can still get knocked up.

The only issue i see them not adding it is charging through a whole team to knock them up is harder. But the push shouldnt be that drastic. Just let it proc collosus it feels wierd being a giant ram but charging through people does hardly anything unless you hit a wall.

Also another point is the damage is just AWFUL. Like it scales with tank but the base is so unbearably low (especially since its the last thing you max) that it barely exists. I think you shoul increase the base damage by 10-15 more each rank than its giving now. And maybe increasing knockup damage by 15-20 each rank also.


R: What is with delayed dashes lately? Like is this Riots way of toning back "Mobility creep?" Galio Urgot and now Ornn Have super delayed dashes. And Kayn 's dash is delayed at the end.

What I would do is tone back the delay on reactivating the R, the tooltip mentions no delay either. Its like a solid 0.75 second delay and until you learn it it makes landing this ult incredoubly hard. (I am also unsure if it stops CC after reactivating making it even harder to do. It doesnt even have to be removed just like a 0.15-0.25 second less delay.


Some of these changes arent TOO drastic, and are more QoL changes more than anything. And if these were addressed i would have a much better time playing Ornn

EDIT: And since I know someones gonna say this. Ornn has been out for a week and a half and has grown 6% in winrate. This is significantly less than other new champions, and Ornn got a hotfix. I highly doubt teammates building Ornn items too early is causing him to stay around 35% winrate alone. (Which to my knowledge is the only change on the PBE)

5 Comments

The Elo Train1 votes

I would space this up a bit... I can't even read it due to how clumped it is.

Skorch1 votes

Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I edited the paragraphs and added separators so hopefully that helps.

vidghost1 votes

ornn is pure trash... 35% win rate.. lowest in the whole game.. only one thing will fix him.. MEGA ULTRA BUFFS TO EVERYTHING.. nothing else will work.. they messed up.. they need to fix him big time.. his minon clear is as bad as nami and jarna lol

The Elo Train1 votes

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ornn is pure trash... 35% win rate.. lowest in the whole game.. only one thing will fix him.. MEGA ULTRA BUFFS TO EVERYTHING.. nothing else will work.. they messed up.. they need to fix him big time.. his minon clear is as bad as nami and jarna lol

I'll keep collecting my ELO on this under-rated champion until people understand that he's actually good.

Hello I am Bird1 votes

Pretty sure the same thing happened to Ivern and then everyone learned how to play him and he was fine + then buffs were added so he was overpowered, so he was nerfed into a weaker state than he started in. Same thing with Bard. Can we just give it a bit of time please?

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