Mmk, so tell me how it's my fault.

Onotori··2 votes·1,655 views

Since it's obviously my fault I lose games, and not the fact that balance doesn't exist and everything is a coin toss, tell me what I'm doing wrong.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Konotori

There you go. Minus the couple bad games as Lulu and Teemo, tell me what the fuck I'm doing wrong. And pay close attention to my score relative to my teammates' scores. They feed literally every fucking game, so keep that in mind.

34 Comments

PrismalDawn7 votes

For starters your CS is shit

Onotori1 votes

Okay, now tell me exactly how that makes me lose.

And you wanna know why my CS is low? It's because I know how to play from behind and don't care if I'm behind in farm, and roam around to try and keep my very intelligent teammates from feeding 15 fucking kills each.

Marshbouy7 votes

Sounds like you don't want any advice and you just want to bitch and make excuses.

Onotori1 votes

No I want legitimate reasons.

PrismalDawn5 votes

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Marshbouy4 votes

Even though I laughed, that's still unnecessary.

It may be Konotori, but they're still a human (I think). They deserve respect.

ZackTheWaffleMan1 votes

Debatable on all counts.

Ragnaveil1 votes

Issue is, they think they are better than others. Does a human always get good things their way if they think like they are some alpha male/god? Not really, they just look like an asshole. T1's an example of such a situation, but ends on a better note unlike this nutjob here.

FOR JUSTICE8 votes

no farm = no items

no items = no damage/utility

no damage/utility = cant carry.

Onotori1 votes

Now if that were the case... why do I usually have the most kills, highest KP and highest damage?

Marshbouy4 votes

You could have higher kills, higher KP, and higher damage if you maximized the amount of minions you're getting. This can be done by working on minion control and minimizing the amount of minions you're losing to your own tower when roaming the map, perfecting your farm in the early game, and constantly remembering to farm in the later game. There are plenty of guides on how to do this kind of thing on youtube.

Onotori1 votes

Yes I understand how to farm. What you don't understand is that if I'm not babysitting my team of geniuses 100% of the time, they feed.

So, how do you both at the same time? Can I clone myself?

Marshbouy3 votes

I'm not telling you to magically clone yourself. I'm just saying that there are probably some times in game where you could be maximizing your CS better.

I'd reccomend watching some replays and seeing if there are specific times in the game where you're missing CS fairly frequently. For example, I usually drop off in CS counts during the mid game when I'm really focused on teamfighting.

I'm sorry, but I don't care how often you're roaming, but an average of 4.8 CS/min (excluding your support game) is is bronze level CSing ability. You'll be heavily disadvantaged if you're facing people who can CS at even just 6 cs/min.

Ragnaveil2 votes

Which wins in the game of life? Brute strength, or a brain? Use the answer to the question to finally exorcise yourself of the sin that is pride. You refuse to learn from mistakes from what I can tell. You want the game to be balanced around you and your arrogant playstyle. If that's not being childish and selfish, then what else is? It annoys me how much you spew your arrogant mouth on the boards and I have to see these posts every day at almost every hour.

People learn from mistakes, yet you seem to ignore that fact and blame others. How do you expect to climb, hell, succeed in life with such a close minded personality like yours currently? Think on that for once in your life.

Angrychickén1 votes

Even in the games you win your cs is really bad. Unless you’re saying a 15/8 Zoe is behind.

Marshbouy1 votes

I thought you were just exaggerating but you aren't. It's bad, really bad.

FOR JUSTICE5 votes

for one thing, you tend to take fights blind or dive into 2-4 people, or stray too close to obvious cc. then when you get focused, you complain in all chat about being "oneshot" by x and how y is unbalanced. seriously though I was spectating and it was annoying as hell. please, stop complaining about every little death.

Annie (all): seriously zoe you whine more then this lucian

exhibit A https://imgur.com/RAy29fi

exhibit B: https://imgur.com/YaZQsou

exhibit C: https://imgur.com/A27u7hz

I had 2 more, but the boards didnt render them properly.

also for the record,

  1. pantheon has never been seen on a professional stage, (for at least 3 seasons)
  2. companies lying to the consumer is in fact fraud, but its only fraud if they advertise the product as doing something they know it doesn't do (i.e: I say this pizza will make you younger, knowing it doesn't)
  3. you complain about a full pantheon spell rotation plus electrocute doing 70% of your health, despite your MAIN weakness as zoe being an all-in. also youre a zoe, you should be the last one complaining about "OMGGG ONESHOTS"
  4. despite annie practically inting, she STILL out farmed you
  5. riot reworked assasins due to blowing up people with zero counterplay, but there is a difference between a fed lethality user blowing up a squishy compared to a behind or even lethality user blowing up a squishy. the former is perfectly OK.
ModPeriscope3 votes

How does someone manage 3 wards per game? The darkness would start bothering me at some point.

Marshbouy3 votes

Same. I get anxious whenever I haven't placed a ward in at least 2 minutes.

Ragnaveil1 votes

What's worse is that they ward 3 times a game as support. Like...what? You have a gold item that turns into a sightstone and you still manage to ward only 3 times a game?

Crispy0Snake2 votes

Your champion pool is too large, You need to pick two or three champions in one role and main them. They should be very different to eachother so that they fit in different team compositions so that you have the opportunity to pick a champion with a lot of agency all the time. My 2 mains on this account are Alistar and Morgana. In SoloQ I have an 82% w/r on Morgana and a 71% w/r on Alistar. The winrates are high because if we need a tank/engage/peel I pick Alistar and if you don't need a tank Morgana is very good in general.

More games than you realise are won or lost in champion select :)

Onotori1 votes

See, people like that excuse, but I have dozens or hundreds of games on every champ I play. I've got rank 7 on 40 champs, rank 5 and 6 on another 50... This game isn't hard, and the champs aren't complex.

Marshbouy5 votes

Mastery 7 doesn't mean anything. It really doesn't. Anyone can get lucky and get a good score on a champion that they play fairly frequently a few times.

What really matters is consistency. I am mastery 7 on Nidalee, Teemo, and Azir. But, on all 3 of those champions I am very feast of famine. I am either the hyper-carry or I am completely feeding out of my ass. I tend to feed out of my ass more often than I hypercarry.

Scale back your roles and champions that you play. Start out with 2 roles and maybe 4 champions. If you can play all of those very consistently and you start to climb then introduce more champions into your pool. Stop introducing champions into your pool when your performance starts to suffer on the champions.

This game isn't hard

If the game wasn't hard, then you wouldn't be struggling to climb.

The bottom line is this: If you only have played a champion for 40 games and you are facing someone who has played their champion for 200 games, then you'll almost definitely lose. They will know the matchups, powerspikes, buildpaths, and how to pull of combos better than you do. They have the sheer experience from more games.

You cannot learn how to play specific matchups if you've only played a dozen or more games on one champion.

Onotori1 votes

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If the game wasn't hard, then you wouldn't be struggling to climb.

Unfortunately, I'm not the only playing the game. I have to rely on four other people on my team.

You cannot learn how to play specific matchups if you've only played a dozen or more games on one champion.

When you've played over 10,000 games total... you know how everything in the game works down to tiny little details. So, yes, you absolutely can know how to play specific matchups.

Someone could be better at a specific champ, but I'm better overall. Especially since I play so many champs and know them to the T. Means I'm adaptable, and it also means I know how to beat every champ -- even if it's a bad matchup for me.

Trust me when I say microplay is not my issue.

Marshbouy3 votes

Holy shit I'm dying. I can't anymore. This is too funny.

You say shit like this

you know how everything in the game works down to tiny little details.

and then you can't even break 5 cs/min.

Yeah you're hardstuck gold at best. Sorry man, but if you want to improve then you can't just make excuses about everything constantly.

Onotori1 votes

Just so happens I put helping my team above my individual gold income -- my bad. I can play from behind just fine, as I said up above.

Chibi Bronzlife2 votes

but I've seen footage that proves you can not.

Ragnaveil2 votes

The only way they will climb is when they learn they are human, not a god. At this rate, seems like never.[sg-ezreal] As Yasuo puts it, "No cure for fools."

Crispy0Snake2 votes

I have dozens or hundreds of games on every champ I play. I've got rank 7 on 40 champs, rank 5 and 6 on another 50... This game isn't hard, and the champs aren't complex.

You're partially right here, anyone can pick up a champion and play them well after a lot of games with that champion, however, to climb you need to be better than players that have a similar MMR to you. You could have rank 7 on all the champions, if you are not consistently more useful than your opposing laner then you will not climb. The easiest way to be more useful than your opposing laner is to pick a champion that you can do the most with, given the picks of the enemy team.

If it's not hard, you should just pick up a super meta mid laner, like Aurelion Sol. Shove out mid and roam bot, get bot ahead, win the game. I main support because I want a say on who wins bot lane because bot lane has the potential to be 3000 gold ahead/behind at 10 minutes, and no other lane has that potential.

Also I would say Graves is pick or ban, you have a point on balance with Graves right now, but apart from those two losses to Graves where he popped off, that's it.

PhDs Nuts2 votes

Your CS is as bad as your attitude. Based on your responses here, you're not going to climb, and it's more your fault than you think.

The only reason kills are important is because they help to give you an item/objective advantage over your opponent. If you can't farm worth a damn then you never have a gold lead, so you're never actually ahead.

Beerstein3 votes

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Your CS is as bad as your attitude. Based on your responses here, you're not going to climb.

But not as bad as his ward score.

Chibi Bronzlife2 votes

Truth is, you're all around bad. Even saying that, you're over-exaggerating how often you lose. A player of your skill should be losing about as often as you do. Truth hurts, sometimes you just have to man up and take it. Now, that doesn't mean you can't get better. The first step in getting better though is to take the advice that has already been offered to you. Learn to CS, don't just jump into multiple enemies solo. These two seem to be your biggest problems. From there, just stop talking in game. If you spent as much time clicking as you did talking you'd probably have atleast double the cs in all those games in your history. Ward, for the love of god ward. Just because you aren't a support doesn't mean you shouldn't be warding. Get you shit and put it on the map. If you don't know where you should be warding look up common ward spots. As you get better at reading the game, you'll learn better places to ward versus certain champs. League is about 90% a mental game 5% a physical game, and 5% dependence on your team, especially at the lower elos. If you go Flex, that's a whole other animal, but you're solo queue so what I said above is pretty accurate.

Gabresol2 votes

From what I can see, you also rearely are the reason for your team to win a game, so I would just sum it up as you rarely having an actual impact at all. When you are ahead, there is at least one teammate who is fed like there was an all you can eat buffet somehwere.

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