Don't crush my Teemo!

Pupel·Jul 28, 2015·5 votes·920 views

Browsing over the PBE notes I feel like the nerfs to his shrooms are just a little much right now. I am hoping they are just starting off extreme and plan to dial it back but as I see it standing now they are really taking a swing with the nerf bat. I can understand a reduction in time with the shroom life but to cut it in half seems a little harsh along with nerfing the slow. if it is going to only be 5 minuites would it be too much to ask for a compensation with a CD reduction on it so you can plant more shrooms and still be able to set up thouse mine fields? Personaly I would like that change. But as Teemo was the first champ I have fell in love with and continue to play more than any other champ I am begging Riot not to mess him up I don't want to suffer like the Kassadin mains Keep calm and shroom on

18 Comments

CatSithJul 28, 20152 votes

He can plant a lot already, why do we need him make more? These changes are nothing close to how they changed Kassidain's ult. The changes makes his ult more healthy game play wise.

CatastropJul 28, 20152 votes

He can throw his shrooms now and remain in stealth while moving in brush now. Basically they're remaking him as the ambush champion he was meant to be.

DrCyanideJul 28, 20152 votes

Teemo is getting an Attack Speed buff (his passive attack speed boost ties at level 6 and only gets better from there), and he's gaining the ability to barrage the enemy with mushrooms from safety. Who needs mushrooms that last 5 extra minutes when you can ensure that the same mushrooms deal damage to the enemy?

PupelJul 28, 20151 votes

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Teemo is getting an Attack Speed buff (his passive attack speed boost ties at level 6 and only gets better from there), and he's gaining the ability to barrage the enemy with mushrooms from safety. Who needs mushrooms that last 5 extra minutes when you can ensure that the same mushrooms deal damage to the enemy?

Because its not just about the damage. Its about the utility they bring also. I can split push like a god after I shroom their entire jungle and unless they all have sweepers I can 1v3 their team if they come after me

OrlesJul 28, 20151 votes

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Because its not just about the damage. Its about the utility they bring also. I can split push like a god after I shroom their entire jungle and unless they all have sweepers I can 1v3 their team if they come after me

Hm. Wonder why they're changing teemo... I can 1v3 their team I shroom their entire jungle

PupelJul 29, 20151 votes

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Hm. Wonder why they're changing teemo... I can 1v3 their team I shroom their entire jungle

bruh I worked hard to developed that knowledge and skill with the champ not anyone can do it I deserve those powers

DrCyanideJul 28, 20151 votes

OK, but with the new setup you can replace said mushrooms while still in lane split pushing. Taking their inner tower and curious if that sides buff is up? I'm pretty sure two shrooms, without leaving lane, will get you that vision.

The WhamboozlerJul 28, 20152 votes

Map control is really all Teemo has. Aaaaaaaaand it's gone. But he can throw shrooms now! Um.... yay?

Blue KaoziJul 28, 20151 votes

But he can throw shrooms now... at 900 range...

3TWarriorJul 28, 20152 votes

watch them cut it to 600 2 weeks after gameplay XD the first thought that came to mind was 450, but that's less than his auto attack range

TeemoXNidaleeJul 28, 20151 votes

They should increase the ap ratio back to 80% at least.

PupelJul 28, 20151 votes

Which I think is a neat idea and adds to his identity as a scout but I feel it wont compensate for the fictionally he threatens to lose

TeemoJenkinsJul 28, 20151 votes

Umm... I see these changes as straight up buffs... passive buff and ult buff?

MathbalnaseJul 29, 20151 votes

Early ASboost nerf. 50% Shroom duration nerf. 50% (average) Shroom MSslow nerf.

TeemoJenkinsJul 29, 20151 votes

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Early ASboost nerf. 50% Shroom duration nerf. 50% (average) Shroom MSslow nerf.

10 minutes - that's ALWAYS been a ridiculous duration for a planted object. 5 minutes is plenty. Small change to the slow, which will have more Teemo's building Rylai's for the slow... the AS buff will make top lane Teemo a dynamo where you can kite the edge. I'm super looking forward to it

MathbalnaseJul 29, 20151 votes

SMALL change to the slow? Having it decay over it's duration means that it's average strength is precisely half of its initial strength. Yes, Teemo could buy Rylai's to make up for the nerf, but that's a large, expensive item that he currently has no need for.

TeemoJenkinsJul 29, 20151 votes

Teemo's identity is a kiting champ... but has no need for a Rylai's? ... 40% / 20% slow... and his blind... unless they execute an amazing dash... he can 1v1 any melee as they can't close the distance and with the ability to toss shrooms he can initiate at a distance instead of reactively. Cons are out weighed by pros - unless someone can post PBE data that shows Teemo is less effective I'm super excited for this change.

PupelJul 29, 20151 votes

Ill be honest its hard to tell without it hitting live but teemo should not have to build rylies it really has little synergy with his kit especially with the recent changes to how slows work. Also don't get me wrong I LOVE the changes I just feel they are overcompensating with the nerfs I mean he could be completely broken we just don't know. and I think the 10 minute plant time was appropritate in the age where oracles elixir was a thing and I can agree that it wouldn't hurt to have a slight nerf but they are nerfing the: arm time (yes that makes a big difference), slow, and trap duration by decent amounts too