Yasuo's overpowered Wind Wall vs. Morgana's Balanced Black Shield;

Dominick Destine··4 votes·997 views

Black Shield is a skill that historically had the greatest set of nerfs in all of the game both quantitatively and qualitatively.... NOTE that it is similar to Wind Wall in the sense that it can completely stop long CD ultimates in their tracks with a non-ult skill that has significantly lower recharge time... so what is the difference between Wind Wall and Black Shield? what makes one overpowered and the other one balanced? Remember in the old days; Black Shield would block ALL negative effects on the player, including Exhaust, Ignite and even true damage. That got nerfed obviously.

Then it would block all negative effects like TF's ult vision and Anivia's "Chilled" (No double damage). That got nerfed.

Then the cooldown was increased to almost double and the duration cut from 8 seconds to a scaling 4.... 8 ... that got nerfed down to 5 seconds.

Then the actual shield defense was cut down in AP scaling.

But even the original, true black shield is still not as overpowered as Windwall.... why? because black shield only affected ONE player... and it cost mana to use, AND it could be disabled by direct bursting/focus fire. Windwall disables an entire swath of champions from attacking with zero method of defeat, it cannot be destroyed the way black shield is, and you cannot swap targets to bypass it. It has zero counter play once laid down during a fight... and no, you can't walk around it, if Yasuo and his team stand on the wall, the projectiles will be destroyed rather than have them hit.

Yasuo needs nerfs Riot. This is a statement from a Diamond player.

7 Comments

Mordepool1 votes

If a enemy champ passes through windwall its dispelled. Boom Counterplay balanced

Earl Eulrich1 votes

blackshield is still not really balanced, i approve on the windwall part though.

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bR4gMyjE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-12-08T20:02:07.167+0000)

blackshield is still not really balanced

Perhaps, but there are ample methods of counter play to black shield as I mentioned; Swap targets. Burst/Focus fire. Physical damage. Etc.

It's also worth noting that Black Shield costs mana, whereas Wind Wall is free.

CreationFlaw2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bR4gMyjE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-12-08T20:11:38.055+0000)

Perhaps, but there are ample methods of counter play to black shield as I mentioned; Swap targets. Burst/Focus fire. Physical damage. Etc.

It's also worth noting that Black Shield costs mana, whereas Wind Wall is free.

windwall can't stop mooman, black shield can :C

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

windwall can't stop mooman, black shield can :C

Working as intended.... by the same token; Wind Wall stops Shadow Assault (Talon) whereas Black Shield does nothing against it. Wind Wall stops Whirling Death whereas Black Shield does nothing.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

a lot of that depends on setup and the situation...a morg that is playing well with her carries is still insanity. I agree that windwall is more borken atm, but blackshield is by no degree a really balanced ability.

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bR4gMyjE,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2015-12-08T20:27:22.887+0000)

a lot of that depends on setup and the situation...a morg that is playing well with her carries is still insanity. I agree that windwall is more borken atm, but blackshield is by no degree a really balanced ability.

Black Shield is very strong, but not broken.

Wind Wall is broken.

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