If you think Zed is OP, seriously, you're delusional

HateDaddy·Apr 28, 2015·9 votes·743 views

He's a popular champion that always sits right under 50% in winrate, usually around 47-48%. He has counterplay both in gameplay and itemization. In fact, his teamfight is hard countered by itemization. He's actually one of the hardest champions to play, which isn't relevant balance wise but people like to assume he's face roll. When I die to a LB, Kha, Kassadin, I don't feel like I was outplayed. When I die to a Zed, I know it's because I played it poorly. If you continue to blame the champion, you'll never improve as a player.

In reality, Zed isn't even a top 5 mid laner at the moment. He's fine, stop complaining. And I know, I'm going to get downvoted because the truth hurts and you can't handle it.

25 Comments

ChargeItDownMidApr 28, 20157 votes

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HateDaddyApr 28, 20152 votes

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Aren't you suppose to be shitposting about sona today or something?

Why are you so concerned with what I post and when?

ChargeItDownMidApr 28, 20154 votes

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HateDaddyApr 28, 20151 votes

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Don't know. Guess it is because I am use to seeing trolls commit to the ideas they shit post about back on the old GD. Isn't spamming topics about everything and seeing what sticks taking the easy way out?

It's not trolling. You just consider it trolling because you disagree with it. Just because you don't agree with the content doesn't make it trolling. Sorry your opinion differs from mine. If you don't like my opinion or agree, express why. Otherwise don't bother posting or downvote and move on without expressing anything like most of these people will do because they know they're wrong and the truth hurts.

As far as me being "hateful." This is hilarious. If I was the nice carebear poster everyone wanted me to be, I'd be told "zed is op wtf idiot!! Sona is weak and needs buffs noob, l2p." But put the shoe on the other foot and people wanna get sensitive and soft as pillows. Get out of here with that shit.

IcyPepperApr 28, 20157 votes

Another post about people who hold an opinion you don't share is delusional?

Most complaints I've seen about Zed isn't that he's OP (he's really not...), it's that he's annoying.

But seriously, can you stop the hate threads that insult other people? Maybe make a friendly post for once?

HateDaddyApr 28, 20151 votes

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Another post about people who hold an opinion you don't share is delusional?

Most complaints I've seen about Zed isn't that he's OP (he's really not...), it's that he's annoying.

But seriously, can you stop the hate threads that insult other people? Maybe make a friendly post for once?

I'm not really being unfriendly, it's more neutral. Sorry, the truth hurts. If you believe Zed is OP, you are delusional. I could try and be nice but I'd just get more delusional rant.

And being annoying is stupid, it's just like the people who spam the buzzword anti fun. In rare cases does that even apply at a relevant level, most people consider anything strong anti fun and would only call garbage champs that are auto lose "fun and balanced."

I'm not always going to be the hug and kiss carebear poster people desperately crave. Sometimes the truth needs to be out there and non kiss ass. The truth hurts.

IcyPepperApr 28, 20152 votes

You made two threads containing "Sona main" with an hour between them.

Dude, you really need to chill.

HateDaddyApr 28, 20152 votes

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You made two threads containing "Sona main" with an hour between them.

Dude, you really need to chill.

lol, sorry you don't like my content. You don't have to read it or post you know.

straight4freeApr 28, 20154 votes

Zed is overpowered. Not because he does too much damage, though his passive needs to be seriously looked at, but because he can dive in 1v5 and get a kill without putting himself at risk.

Nobody else gets to do that, and for good reason.

HateDaddyApr 28, 20151 votes

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Zed is overpowered. Not because he does too much damage, though his passive needs to be seriously looked at, but because he can dive in 1v5 and get a kill without putting himself at risk.

Nobody else gets to do that, and for good reason.

Except he does have to put himself at risk because he has to 1v5 dive into melee range is a squishy champion when items like QSS and Zhonyas negate his burst and any half decently intelligent team applies exhaust and CC to him so he can't simply kill squishies with AAs/Qs. He only does that against people who are bad, much the same like many champions who are pub stompers. The solution isn't to nerf a champion because bad players are bad.

straight4freeApr 28, 20153 votes

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Except he does have to put himself at risk because he has to 1v5 dive into melee range is a squishy champion when items like QSS and Zhonyas negate his burst and any half decently intelligent team applies exhaust and CC to him so he can't simply kill squishies with AAs/Qs. He only does that against people who are bad, much the same like many champions who are pub stompers. The solution isn't to nerf a champion because bad players are bad.

No. Zed hits w behind him, hits R, does his abilities instantly and sees if he can get a kill, and if he can't gets out immediately. It isn't balanced.

HateDaddyApr 28, 20151 votes

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No. Zed hits w behind him, hits R, does his abilities instantly and sees if he can get a kill, and if he can't gets out immediately. It isn't balanced.

How is Zed using his W to get behind a front line? It's not that long of a range, if he's walking up to W, cc him lol. When does this and somehow gets past a front line and uses death mark, he's literally a sitting duck. This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

straight4freeApr 28, 20152 votes

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How is Zed using his W to get behind a front line? It's not that long of a range, if he's walking up to W, cc him lol. When does this and somehow gets past a front line and uses death mark, he's literally a sitting duck. This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

W behind himself....

HateDaddyApr 28, 20151 votes

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W behind himself....

Okay, then he presses R on the carry and the carry uses QSS. No QSS? Exhaust him and cc him and help the carry kite him. Any way you slice it, there's counter play to him. There's a reason why pros and high elo players split push with him and avoid teamfighting unless ungodly fed.

NahuiApr 28, 20151 votes

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Zed is overpowered. Not because he does too much damage, though his passive needs to be seriously looked at, but because he can dive in 1v5 and get a kill without putting himself at risk.

Nobody else gets to do that, and for good reason.

Incorrect, just hit him with CC and now he's hugely at risk/dead. Try it sometime, it works wonders for me.

lB2kGRlc8yApr 28, 20153 votes

Zed main thinks that the untargettable ult that gives you an undo option has counterplay. If nothing else its a gap closer, but with his ridiculous ratios, QSSing the debuff usually isn't enough to save you. Also, QSS is a hrd MR item, built against an AD assassin, and Zhonyas is an end tier item that has to be rushed so long as zed exists in the game. Basically your argument is the same thing people tried to pull with Veigar, but Veigar's counters actually mattered, as he couldn't escape from any situation he found himself in. Zed's supposed weakness of being a melee assassin is nullified by his ridiculous lane safety, ability to farm, and harass at a long range. All he needs to do in a team fight is poke at the enemy's frontline and wait for an opening. If you can't do that solo against 5 other players.... thats a good thing. You shouldn't be the only one going after their squishies, so in all likelihood they will pop their item cds for you, and have nothing for the other champions bearing down on them.

ZephyrDrakeApr 28, 20153 votes

guys just downvote and move on, this is such an obvious bad troll that thinks he is being funny or something by making hateful posts about every single player base

SEKAIApr 28, 20152 votes

Zed can "outplay" you because he has a kit that is almost twice as big as yours. I am not sure what's with some portion of LoL's community, but I will always say that you should feel outplayed if you die to someone with a kit that is just as big as yours (excluding the kits that are just way too spammable) and not so when you die to someone with double the in-built advantages you have, since that's the very example of having unfair upperhands.

Not to mention win rate by itself, especially the stats from solo queue, is completely unreliable to be used as a piece to argue whether a champion is OP or not.

LB was utterly unbearable to play against if the player knows what he's doing when she still had her silence, yet she sat around 46% win rate at all times. Lee has always been in <50% win rate, yet he was scoring 90+% pick/ban and 50+% win rate in all tournaments. There ARE more factors that should be taken into account when we're talking about champion power. Popularity, elo range, itemisations and their costs, current meta and whatnot all contribute to champions' position in their tier roster.

Zed was a problem child when he was made, then they changed him into another problem child. While yes the mana regen nerf gave him quite a bit of spotlight back then and later supposedly brought him under control again.

But that is still not excusing the fact his kit philosophy is full of problems by itself.

Riot should really just stick with the 4 spell per kit idea with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions really.

1000angrybeesApr 28, 20152 votes

It's not an issue about whether zed is overpowered, as assassins should be good versus one target. However, his kit is somewhat overloaded and his ult is extremely safe for an 'all in' champ. Also, before anyone says it, counterplay =/= a couple of items and champs. Or banning him.

AzukusApr 28, 20151 votes

Anyone who also disagrees with you is also delusional because you're absolutely right.

Kariu RenaApr 28, 20151 votes

mfw people say

Zed burst no counterplay Talon burst has tons of counterplay

insaiyanbaccaApr 28, 20151 votes

imo he isnt broken or op and hes not incredibly strong he actually feels quite balanced to play as and against

YossarianSenseiApr 28, 20151 votes

I don't get why people are so scared of Zed ult.

If you're a late game ADC, you're easily capable of killing Zed in the 3 seconds it takes for his ult to pop.

Just don't make the newb mistake of running away from his Ult shadow and he won't be able to disengage.

DreddethApr 28, 20151 votes

Bald-faced ad hominem fallacies (Title, "...you can't handle it."), anecdotal fallacies ("When I die to..."), begging the question (Entire post, more or less.), and toxic response to criticism.

Screen Name indicates that this is one of many troll threads.

Time to hijack thread and spam ponies/anime/memes/etc.