Gameplay in a nutshell

HateDaddy··30 votes·1,636 views

Obligatory picture of gameplay in an actual nutshell aside..

When Ahri wasn't considered busted, she's a "kite mage" and therefore balanced.

When Ahri is considered busted, she's "a zero counterplay assassin" blah blah

Not denying Ahri doesn't need some attention but can we all please be consistent with catergorizing champions properly? In other words, I know we all like to jerk our preferred classes but anything of any class can be busted at any time, don't make ridiculous claims to paint a poor picture of something (Ahri is busted so now she's "an assassin vs Ahri isn't busted so now she's a "kite mage") by using another poorly concluded point (assassins are inherently unhealthy vs mages are perfectly balanced). Avoid subjective rhetoric here folks, if stats suggest something's too strong then there's at the very least a need to discuss it. Don't dismiss, dilute or false equivocate; make valid points, be objective and reasonable.

Thanks

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49 Comments

TyrekGoldenspear5 votes

Good luck getting the GenPop of gameplay to adhere to that. :/

You're right though. People will use certain words to manipulate people's opinions thanks to the nagative connotations previously prescribed to them so that they don't have to give as much proof, which can be found be doing some digging, which many aren't willing to do.

######Also your kid Akali is SO HOT is causing a ruckus in GD again...

HateDaddy3 votes

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Good luck getting the GenPop of gameplay to adhere to that. :/

You're right though. People will use certain words to manipulate people's opinions thanks to the nagative connotations previously prescribed to them so that they don't have to give as much proof, which can be found be doing some digging, which many aren't willing to do.

######Also your kid Akali is SO HOT is causing a ruckus in GD again...

I'm gonna beat his ass.

Akali is SO HOT5 votes

fuk u mum

HateDaddy8 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akali is SO HOT,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bLNjwXjy,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-29T15:03:19.826+0000)

fuk u mum

That's why you wet the bed still kid lmfao

ExcusemeFellows1 votes

The fuck is GD?

Linna Excel1 votes

You're kidding right?

ExcusemeFellows1 votes

I'm not joking, the only thing that resembles Gameplay Boards(note the B, not the D) is GB.

Linna Excel1 votes

GD is General Discussion.

It's where all the waifu posts are.

ExcusemeFellows1 votes

Lol, I derped. Now time to go hide in my shell like Rammus does when he's powerballing away.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD

Brace yourself. It is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Once you enter, you will know why the boards front page filters out all GD threads.

ExcusemeFellows1 votes

Well, I derped. Now time to go hide in my shell like Rammus does when he's powerballing away.

HateDaddy1 votes

{quoted}

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD

Brace yourself. It is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Once you enter, you will know why the boards front page filters out all GD threads.

Tbh, all the board sections are pretty cringe. GD just let's some things slide since their policies are less strict

Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votes

I mean at least Gameplay is about Gameplay and Story and Art is about Story and Art.

General Discussion is....

Lauchmelder5 votes

Overall Gameplay in a nutshell:

People complain about a champion being too strong in the current patch due to all the counters getting nerfed.

The people maining said champion going like (for a big part at least):

http://i.imgur.com/CJCJ8nZ.gif

ModAcademy Kayn3 votes

It usually starts with the fact that people don't think they can be wrong. They see one thing that validates their point, and they stick to it likes on Honey. All of the posts about Ahri at the moment, none of them have actually been complaining about Gameplay. They complain about her Winrate, and only her winrate.

Sahn Uzal2 votes

This is what happens when people argue about stuff they do not properly understand, against people who don't properly understand what they're talking about either.

People here (often) don't properly understand what a champion's job is, what their strengths and weaknesses are, so they just parrot others.

Now have the subject of discussion be a champion that is a pretty good example of a generalist, and the result is this shit :P

Sadistic Veigar2 votes

Try saying supports are overtuned/busted

I dare you

HateDaddy2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sadistic Veigar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bLNjwXjy,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-03-29T21:00:47.141+0000)

Try saying supports are overtuned/busted

I dare you

supports....

are..........

Busted......

/..........

OvertuNED...............

😎

Sadistic Veigar2 votes

{quoted}

supports....

are..........

Busted......

/..........

OvertuNED...............

😎

no stfu downvoted im gold 6 support lulu one trick shes balanced i promise its just meta and also when sona had a 58% winrate she was nerfed unfairly cuz it was just meta :^^^))

ProfDrDeath1 votes

Supports, in general, are not really busted/overtuned. Save for Lulu right now.

What is really too strong (and thus has a warping effect on the role) is Spellthief's Edge, as it gives too much additional damage to champions which do already do a lot of early damage. Half the damage they get from the T1 proc to 5 damage, give the T2 proc 10 damage and the T3 proc 15 damage.

Nymzo1 votes

You forgot item 3107 and item 3190

ProfDrDeath1 votes

You're right, I did.

However, these item being too strong in general has less to do with the current crop of Malzahar/MF/Zyra (neither of whom has a shield), and more with the fact of the items being hilariously overtuned/underpriced.

Linna Excel1 votes

What kind of nut shell?

HateDaddy2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bLNjwXjy,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-03-29T15:01:32.454+0000)

What kind of nut shell?

We can go with walnut

Linna Excel2 votes

I can live with walnuts.

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

She's a Kite Mage Burst Assassin

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

What are you on m8?

That description is obviously for Leblanc.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-05-2015/6Tsm0v.gif

ExcusemeFellows1 votes

Why not both?

WoonStruck1 votes

I never think she's strong because of her assassination potential.

Her safety is what makes her an issue

A large reason for this is because in this game, safety also = versatility because it means significant mobility.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

And the hypocrisy towards multiple champions disgusts me.

HateDaddy1 votes

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http://i.imgur.com/yKXjEBy.jpg

I miss the old gentleman cho slash art

Apparently he's busted atm, might be time to bring him back

ProfDrDeath1 votes

If Cho's busted, it does not show in the stats:

http://lolalytics.com/champion/Chogath/Top/

48.17% winrate in his most successful role does not scream "BUSTED" to me...

HateDaddy1 votes

{quoted}

If Cho's busted, it does not show in the stats:

http://lolalytics.com/champion/Chogath/Top/

48.17% winrate in his most successful role does not scream "BUSTED" to me...

Hasn't caught on yet my man, give it time. Even in chos prime when he's been "busted" in the past, he's rarely surpassed a 50% win rate

Dominick Destine1 votes

OP is an assassin main.

HateDaddy3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bLNjwXjy,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-03-29T22:15:10.372+0000)

OP is an assassin main.

ya Jax becomes an assassin when u purchase botrk

Nasus becomes an assassin when you purchase frozen heart or spirit visage

Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votes

It's DD, just... just don't worry...

OyddAWqJ5r1 votes

A kite mage that performs the job of an assassin is an assassin by definition. I don't see the issue.

It's an accurate classification of an out of line performance by a champion of a class with assassin qualities that causes it to leak too far into the specializations of the assassin class (1-shotting and reliably escaping).

Typically when something is broken damage-wise they end up being labelled "assassin" because typically this damage overtuning allows them to perform as assassins in addition to their original archetype.

NineTailedMystic1 votes

She's a Burst Mage, as defined by Riot.

OyddAWqJ5r1 votes

Ah very well. Only said kite mage cuz the OP did. Why was my factual post downvoted? Someone not agree with facts?

Gregor Gysi1 votes

That's why I love being a Riven main on the boards, she's consistently hated.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Different names, but all similar things:

Mobile Mage

I think that's how Riot described her too.

Juggernauts, Vanguards, Divers

are basically all fancy bruisers

Mannny1 votes

I genuinely think Vayne is broken as hell but my posts won't NOT get massively downvoted until she becomes meta again so rip :\

Gibberwatt1 votes

And that's your thing. Personally, I hate Fizz with a passion, and don't see how to play against him, but some people do it all the time. Riot is not going to change a champion cause 200ish people on the boards have a personal vendetta against them. Like, there are millions of players.

Mannny1 votes

I think Fizz is broken as hell too. Fizz by the common player would be considered too strong.

Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votes

I could deal with Gameplay posts if people could just agree there isn't one champion in the game who isn't annoying to play against.

Literally EVERY champion in League of Legends is annoying.

AhmCha1 votes

Yeah, this is why I've stopped commenting on champion balance, there's an 80% chance I don't know what I'm talking about.

Lord Galvatron1 votes

Isn't that implying that we actually take "Nerf Ahri" posts seriously to begin with?

Canastus1 votes

I've been consistent for years about my dislike for Ahri, it's just that others have finally begun to realize how busted she truly is.

She always was overpowered, a solid 53% winrate since season 5 that simply won't go down can't be denied that easily. Especially when said champion is the most popular mage in the entire game.

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