Strong champions against graves top?

Sorgklaan··1 votes·530 views

I was laying here thinking and realized I don't really know any good counterpicks to him. I barely beat him with my main and I don't feel comfortable trying that again, so who are some counterpicks? Rammus, Malphite, and Urgot come to mind, but I'm not really comfortable playing those champions.

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Sorgklaan1 votes

I can name some, just none that I can play worth shit. Quinn would probably work really well, as would gangplank.

If I really wanted to try something crazy, I could probably pick malzahar, poke him out early, then zone him out with my ult. It would be risky as fuck, but it would completely fuck him if I played it right.

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

Teemo -> dodge Q, blind d bich, win.

Also Big G is one of few toplaners than never really outscale you, so you also got that.

MorganFreemanBot1 votes

of melee tops, Darius is one of the only ones who has a chance. Graves beats him in a stand-up fight for most of the game, but with clever positioning and good E usage (combined with Darius having a -really- big melee AA range) you can make him shoot creeps instead of you for the early parts of a fight.. And once you get that five stack up, Graves will really not have a good day.

Trynd Only Sorry1 votes

Kayle can do it.

BLYAT moon Akali1 votes

buffed irelia. q a low health minion and you are in his melee range for only 15 mana, ready to stun (he poked you beforehand).

he jumps away? you q on him. he has resistances? you have true damage. buy early armor and pots so you can farm up for your strap-on (rageblade).

or play trundle with ghost and again early armor and some damage after that. 10 seconds in melee range and with his ad and bonus armor stolen, how is he going to survive that?

Vhalthoria1 votes

I beat him with Nasus no problem. The secret is, he insta-pushes, if you keep your distance his autos won't hurt much and Q will be easy to avoid the come back burst. You can heal all the damage, and if he is utterly aggressive, he will run out of mana pretty fast for you to farm peacefully for a while. Around lv4-5 he is an easy gank. Just let your jungler know and Wither him at your turret. It will simply be a long way for him, a flash will be burned otherwise he dies.

You can also safely farm behind minions as his autos don't go through them, even if you are the target.

After you build enough armor and a Sheen, you can start being a little aggressive as each Q will chunk him hard, you can pretty much all-in him all game from there on every time you have poked him low enough. Granted, if he didn't get fed elsewhere. You just gotta be patient and avoid being close. The moment he pushes to your turret, freeze the lane there and if you have an a observant jungler then Graves will be scared from there on to be aggressive unless their jungler decides to assist him as well, that's when you know you are in danger. The sight is simply obvious.

The fact that he insta-pushes makes him the easiest of top adc's to lane against. As a Nasus player, I love farming under turret.

Maxing W second is crucial as he is auto attack oriented as all other ADC's etc. So when you wither him you make him your bitch.

Just please, don't eat a lot of unnecessary damage early, otherwise it will be hard for you. 6 stacks aren't worth if you are gonna get chunked hard for it. So knowing which stacks to get and which ones to give up is advisable.

Late game, he won't be able to 1v1 at all unless fed and has enough penetration to burst you down before you do work on him.

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