Lee sin' low cds makes him the most error-forgivable champion in league

Glauciane·10/14/2019, 4:56:12 PM·13 votes·6,432 views

+ + Talent = 40% cdr with only 2 items.

Original Q cd = 7s. Which results in 4.2s Cd. STARTING IN THE FIRST CAST! The whole time between lee lands the first q and does not use the second q COUNT AS COOLDOWN TIME! That is whole 3 seconds. Real q cd ends up being 1.2s!!!!

Original W cd = 12s. Which results in 7.2 Cd S STARTING IN THE FIRST CAST! . But the shield lasts 4s. Which means the Real W cd is only 3.2 s!!!

Original E cd = 10s. Which results in 6cd STARTING IN THE FIRST CAST! Another skill that lee can hold on the second cast while the cd is running down.

Lee's cds SHOULD START ON THE FIRST CAST! It's ridiculous that an asassin may miss gap closing dash every 1.2s or use a shield dash every 3.2s.

32 Comments

ZackTheWaffleMan10/14/2019, 7:21:03 PM9 votes

on the other hand, it's incredibly easy to screw up mechanically on lee

WTBeGirl100EUhr10/15/2019, 12:02:10 AM7 votes

Like most energy gated champions, most of his CDs are short because he's energy gated. Unlike most energy champions, he doesn't have 1 "big" cooldown like Zed W, Akali shroud, to gate him beyond energy.

CaptainAntiHeroz10/14/2019, 7:19:40 PM3 votes

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Sightless6610/15/2019, 12:14:53 PM2 votes

It's ridiculous that an asassin may miss gap closing dash every 1.2s or use a shield dash every 3.2s.

That isn't accurate though. You're taking the minimum time between the second cast of the ability and a new cast, and representing that as the cooldown of the whole skill. That is just wrong.

Lee can't shield dash every 3.2 seconds. He can only use that dash once every 7.2 seconds, because that is how often his first W ( the one that dashes) is actually up. He can wait to use the second w, but that won't lower the dash-to-dash time even slightly.

SiG DxD10/15/2019, 4:23:12 PM1 votes

most shields in game last 1.5 s yet lee sin has shield for 4 s

ok ...i guess riot... and for him and ally

Pandemic Punch10/15/2019, 7:17:01 PM1 votes

Too forgiving? He has no room for errors or time to not position himself where he won't make errors. If he is not in the enemy's face at all stages of the game, his existence is pointless. If you make 1 or 2 errors WHILE in the face of his enemies, he can cost his team to lose from a single error especially late game. This is especially true since he doesn't scale.

Champions that can instantly delete enemies with little mechanical effort ( Shaco Khazix ) have more room for error. There won't be a stage of the game where you won't be able to instantly kill an enemy unless your team is VERY behind. Lee Sin late game can land a full combo on a squishy target and still not kill them. Other champions that have more room for error are champions that scale ( MasterYi Jax ). There is a reason Lee Sin always has a garbage win rate. Figured you would know more than anyone else though since your rank is so low that you are concealing it from the public by posting on a fake account. Lee Sin is trash in lower elos. He isn't even a good champion statistically until Challenger.