4v5 needs to be addressed

SwiftKitten88·Mar 13, 2016·3 votes·503 views

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2123092872/207008136?tab=overview our team had 34 kills, they had 24, we did everything we could. but ever so slowly they just could push objectives

every single one of our lanes won. even with them having a jungler and us not we won EVERY LANE. yet in the end it doesn't matter. it took them 45 min, but ever so slowlythey just pushed.. dealt some damage to a tower.. pulled back.. split push.. every time we stopped them. but they kept just damage little by little, until we were pushed back to our base. and eventually we lose.

so we lose LP and they get win...

our team did our jobs.. every one of us we all won lane.. we all stopped thier pushes.. but we cant push a tower when they have 5 people defending it and we have 4 attacking.. we cant contest objectives like dragon and baron when they have smite and we don't

15 Comments

My Sea CowMar 13, 20162 votes

4v5s are definitely winnable and I've seen teams win 3v5. You have to change your strategy but it's definitely winnable

MXXXXXLMar 13, 20164 votes

They're still not fair.

My Sea CowMar 13, 20161 votes

Never said they are fair but they are winnable.

MXXXXXLMar 13, 20161 votes

Oh, but they're still a problem.

xVARIANTxMar 13, 20161 votes

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4v5s are definitely winnable and I've seen teams win 3v5. You have to change your strategy but it's definitely winnable

How winnable? Got any stats that prove it worthwhile to play? Matchmaking is doing a terrible job if you even have a decent chance at winning a 4v5 because teams are balanced around 5v5s. I don't know how this game can be on it's 6th season without this issue being addressed in the slightest. This is a huge source of toxicity as waiting until 20 mins to surrender or suffering a longer more agonizing death is quite irritating. Riot Lytle should be all over this issue.

My Sea CowMar 14, 20161 votes

I had one but I can't find it ugh! I've lost a 5v3 before and I had the video recorded and uploaded to YouTube so I thought but it's not on my new or old channel from what I see.

With 4v5s or 3v5s you shouldn't engage and try to let them only engage if you're under tower (so tower can act as an extra damage source). Focusing the damage dealers first but not getting cced. Not easy but still possible. If the enemy is smart they will push all lanes. 1.3.1. If that's happens generally you won't win unless they play super super dumb

BeldairMar 13, 20161 votes

My team won a 4v5 when they had an adc and we didn't.

MXXXXXLMar 13, 20162 votes

So that means that 4v5s are alright and should continue to force you to lose LP randomly and there is nothing you can do about it?

BeldairMar 13, 20161 votes

Never said that. I am just making a point that 4v5s are winnable.

MXXXXXLMar 13, 20161 votes

Oh ok, i thought you were being one of those people who say "Never surrender! i once won a 3v5 in an amazing comeback when 2 of our players were AFK.".

BeldairMar 13, 20161 votes

Oh no...i will surrender if it is hopeless...like already to inhib tower and with 15 more kills than us....i will surrender