New passive for Ardent Censer

Valhalla Rising·Mar 16, 2017·1 votes·1,443 views

-Increase bonus healing and shielding to 20% from 10%.

-New Passive: 40% of your heals are converted to shields and 40% of shields are converted to heals.

4 Comments

Nanuk PihoqahiakMar 16, 20171 votes

For characters that rely on shielding as a primary mechanic, preventing damage is always better than healing it. Not really sure I'd want this on Karma or Janna.

Illâoi Evê SiônMar 16, 20171 votes

The passive is interesting, but there's no reason why it should replace Ardent Censer. The new item wouldn't even share the same niche as Ardent Censer. Edit: I just assumed it would replace because of the "new" in the title. If it's not supposed to replace Ardent's passive then disregard this.

If you wanted to, you could create another item that has the same stats and your suggested passive, but I'm not sure it would cause more good than harm. It could raise issues with the Forbidden Idol passive stacking. If it worked on auto-shields it might create sustain issues, so it would have to only work on other allies. The heal-to-shield conversion is supposed to be its situational downside and not all champions have heals. Champions who primarily heal wouldn't want it because it would do them more harm than good. And champions who primarily shield would only use it to boost their allies' sustain out of combat and that might not be worth the item. Marksmen have Life Steal on their own for out of combat sustain and heals can be reduced in combat by Grievous Wounds (reducing your effective shield strength by 16%). Supports also have enough other items to boost their allies' sustain (Athene's, Ardent Censer, Redemption, etc.). And if the passive was strong enough to be worth an item slot, it would also create health issues. For example, I could imagine the passive would be great on a champion like Lulu who can perma-shield her allies, but then she would be no different from the old Soraka.

Edit: What might be worth further exploring is the heal-to-shield conversion part if the conversion applied before Grievous Wounds as a way to offer counter-counterplay for healers against teams that itemized well into Grievous Wounds.

Another Edit (sorry, it's just a really interesting concept): The shield-to-heal conversion concept could be expanded and made to work. I shouldn't dismiss it. Like, it could work on a cooldown so champions don't become heal-bots. But I'm not sure if that would create a big enough niche of its own in comparison to, say, Athene's which also offers a "heal on a cooldown" for shield champions.

ChaddyFantomeMar 16, 20171 votes

Why? Ardent Sensor is a great item and fine as it is.

I wouldn't mind this too much as a new item but i think it is a bit to skewed in favor of shielding champs since healing is generally more valuable than shielding.

Maybe this is better suited as a keystone of some sort.

Taliyah RocksMar 16, 20171 votes

I like the offensive side of Ardent Censer. It's so fun to use on Lulu with her passive, your adc gets to deals tons of damage while sustaining himself.