Jhin ult damage buffed again

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There's really nothing else to buff. His autos hurt. His Q hurts. His W hurts. His passive is fantastic. With how his kit works, buffing any sort of base values quickly spirals out of control.

His ult is kind of lackluster. The cooldown is long and it makes him totally vulnerable, but it can feel like it does no damage unless the enemy is about to die or you've built lethality.

I think "CDR Jhin" is gonna become a thing. Start lethality, then get Essence Reaver instead of IE, maybe grab runes like Transcendence and Presence of Mind, and you can just trap the everloving crap out of the bot lane and spam your ult at the enemy.

The artificial limit on his attack speed and reload time makes it impossible for him to compete late game with the current itemization, despite him doing a lot of damage.

When you factor in the reload time, Jhin's overall damage in team fights is atrocious, especially with fights only lasting a couple of seconds. He only gets four autos every ~6 seconds, and if even one of them doesn't crit, his damage is neutered.

i.e. ignoring everything except for items for simplicity: with IE, RFC, PD, and GA, at level 15, Jhin does about 2292 (+25% missing health) damage in 5.8 seconds. Any other non-Draven ADC with the same itemization, ignoring any abilities, will do a little over 3000 in ~5.5 seconds. With team fights being over so quickly and the game being focused on 'kill them before they kill you,' the constant damage output is much more important than Jhin's inconsistent and unreliable damage.

Unless crit itemization goes away or the reload mechanic is changed, it's unlikely they can make him a good pick without breaking his auto damage.

His ult deals A LOT of damage

It's just hard to use because of the drawbacks you listed

They shouldn't have increased the damage, but maybe increase the range by 100 or 200 to make it easier to use

In aram DH, ultimate hunter, presence of mind and CDG are fantastic for lethality Jhin spamming ult. Never tried it in SR though, probably with some changes.

Great comparison right there. It's amusing to see how people try to dodge in the same manner everytime, once you get the hang of Jhin's R.

Wasn't that Zoe? She doesn't look like a sniper but she does all a sniper would do. Oneshotting from 3 screens away.

I know it's kinda comparing apples or oranges, but what about cait?

In super old days caits ultimate dealt some serious damage (cause overall AAs were alot weaker), but now it's glorified normal AA with better range. It's damage is, at best, good at securing the kill, but where other ADCs have ultimates that help them through whole fight, cait is pretty much a 2-ability champion with R only usefull if she fails to finish her target.

I know she's not weak or anything, but her R design should be revisited to match current game.

Same goes for Sivir where she has ungodly pathetic ultimate-steroid, that had alot more sense when strategizing was alot more important. Now anyone with has pretty much sivirs ultimate in an item. Doesn't mean sivir is weak, but again, her ultimate is outdated as hell.

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I think the reason is probably because if they buff anything else he'll be busted. His ult damage isn't that powerful honestly even at full build, except for his 4th shot, so it's not dangerous to buff it's damage.

then maybe dont buff him in the first place