When I dominate but we lose the match.

Radiant Wukong··21 votes·1,367 views

I feel it's entirely my fault.

When I have the level and gold advantage over the other 9 players and I'm playing a champ like MonkeyKing JarvanIV Aatrox Renekton Camille Shen I feel the game can be completely decided by my actions, especially if my team isn't being completely destroyed.

How can I have total control of the match and we lose? Clearly, I prioritized wrong. I don't know what I need to start doing right, but I guess I'll start rising in ranks when I do.

24 Comments

IcyPepper17 votes

This, people, is how you learn and get better.

+1 OP. You deserve it.

A Dizzy Lulu7 votes

no it's always the junglers fault for losses

Sasogwa3 votes

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no it's always the junglers fault for losses

Yup, Khan even said it :P

Sp33d Zer03 votes

What I found I did wrong was I would stop farming to group up all the time (even if it meant there was nothing to take objective wise), or I didn't set up any objectives to take.

I like to set up waves to push into the enemy, and then rotate to the opposite side of the map. I'll get a decent wave bot, base, and then go shove top. Dip in and out of clearing the minions top, and someone will come top to stop you, but also go bot to get farm. Makes it much easier to take that loner out at top lane knowing that other players have to go deal with the lane you set up prior.

Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

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What I found I did wrong was I would stop farming to group up all the time (even if it meant there was nothing to take objective wise), or I didn't set up any objectives to take.

I like to set up waves to push into the enemy, and then rotate to the opposite side of the map. I'll get a decent wave bot, base, and then go shove top. Dip in and out of clearing the minions top, and someone will come top to stop you, but also go bot to get farm. Makes it much easier to take that loner out at top lane knowing that other players have to go deal with the lane you set up prior.

I only learnt this recently from phylol, about slowpushing. It's like setting off a Yorick maiden in a lane, except without the maiden. And if that gets ignored, you get a huge wave to tank turret with.

Done252 votes

There is one thing and only one thing that wins the match. Killing the enemy nexus. Any champ that can easily kill dragon/baron/towers on their own will carry you far. Since you seem to like top lane, might I suggest Trundle? Nasus is also a good pick if you can survive his weak lane phase.

Yorick would be great as well if his Q worked on towers. Riot is so inconsistent...

Blåbæret2 votes

Nope.

In this meta, all that matters is getting your ADC fed. You can be 20/0 and still lose if their ADC is better than yours when they hit late game at 15 minutes. A two item ADC will wreck anything in terms of damage output.

In other words, ADC is the only class capable of carrying. Everything else has been nerfed to trash by Riot.

Daunt4 votes

Gl climbing with that mentality.

Bronze 6 Yasuo4 votes

Adc is op

Daunt2 votes

So since ADCs are good no other class can carry games? Flawless logic. Not only is that statement statistically false but it's also really dumb to say something like that out loud.

Sp33d Zer05 votes

There is so much that is untrue about this statement, especially since the Ardent Censor nerf super delayed the "late game" of an ADC, that I don't even know where to begin.

Thefrostyviking2 votes

Have you even followed the statistics? Marksmen and enhancers have dropped down several steps following the ardent nerfs.

Tank junglers dropped down following item nerfs and seju nerfs.

Now botlane has a lot more aggressive supports like leo, zyra or blitz again.

Lee sin is once again going towards the top of the jungle.

Toplane will most likely see an influx of Fiora´s sometime soon.

And strong mages are still hella powerful, a good Ori,vel koz or Syndra can easily carry a game against any team that doesn't focus everything on endurance aka barriers and sustain.

The only really OP things remaining in the botlane are Twitch and static shiv.

bàn2 votes

hes not wrong you know lol

Eunson2 votes

Catch up exp ruined this game.

xPhantomDancerX1 votes

Yes, yes.

DunkinNoobs1 votes

If the effort you put out would be enough to win 95% of the time, you shouldn't start doubting yourself when that 5% comes along and you lose one.

Khâmul1 votes

you can't have a total control of the match if you have teammates that gives priority to a blue buff instead of a freenash :/ guess you'll have to play some champs that require 2/3 people to get beaten and split push like hell

General Esdeath 1 votes

For me, it depends on 3 things:

  1. How far into the game is it
  2. What's my team doing
  3. What's the enemy team doing

If my team is just running around arguing while the enemy groups for objectives and my team ignores my advice, there's nothing I could have done better.

Catastrophic1 votes

I feel especially bad if I got that lead because of jungler ganks, cause I basically wasted his time, the team put resources into me, and I couldn't use them.

NCBuckets1 votes

team game.

Hayaishi21 votes

Its a team game, being fed doesn't mean you will win. Specially if they have a comp that can outscale

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

The point of the game is to have fun. I would lose anytime instead of wasting 15-20 mins for boring push-fest and protect the ADC gameplay. That's why I uninstalled.

Quepha1 votes

Pretty much all of those champs should be splitting when ahead. That gives you massive control over the pacing of the game and is the best way to leverage your lead. Whether you should then use your push to tp into a fight, flank, or just directly take a tower depends on the champion and situation.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

Hi fellow monkey,

Its a shame u are on NA server... i think i could spec and give u some advice if u were on "mine".

Anyway

I feel the game can be completely decided by my actions, especially if my team isn't being completely destroyed.

Totaly in the world where both team have same strengh... u are the one who should make the difference.

How can I have total control of the match and we lose?

Honestly, in this case either u were dumb, either it was ur team. But its very rare to have TOTAL control.

Clearly, I prioritized wrong. I don't know what I need to start doing right, but I guess I'll start rising in ranks when I do.

Start by stopping ur BS. Your BS here is too play 6 champ !!! play 2 champ max until u get gold. At the end of each game take a break of 10-15 min... mainly when its a lose. At the end of each... ask yourself what's u could do better (use replay or play tv ).

And most of all : keep ur composure, don't blame ur mate, mute them if they start to argue among them or flame u.

THE REAL MOST IMPORTANT THING : Mute all if someone ask u to build tank when u play Wukong

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