Zyra's passive NEEDS buffs.

Ser Garland··8 votes·1,024 views

I'm usually the kind of guy who is conservative when calling for buffs or nerfs, and usually strive for reworks to fix an otherwise toxic champion.

But I like to play Mid Zyra. She's a fun, fresh, Pet Champion who isn't Azir or heimer. She has a ton of weaknesses. She's slow, easily gankable, her plants are very easy to get out of, her identity as both a burst and a dps champ leaves her to be desired in both categories.

So why is her passive, literally the most useless passive in the game?

Ive always had disdain for "Death" triggered passives. "So to get my full use out of X champion, I have to die??" and most of these death passives are fairly, underwhelming even when you do. But Zyra's is by far the least reliable, and the least rewarding. The Delay on the thing is so slow, for a slow moving, narrow skill shot, you'll never hit your enemy unless they stand still. And even if you do, it barely does anything to them. The best possible outcome you can get from it is that you might go even in a trade and kill them back.

Really? Is that so toxic that you had to nerf it? Going even in a trade that you initially lost?

Riot, revert the nerfs to her passive, whatever time that you thought was toxic for it to exist is over now. We want an instant, Jarvan Q speed Dragon strike out of Zyra's passive. It's the least you can do.

13 Comments

Krys Star3 votes

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. They should get rid of her passive, and move her W as her passive. Every x seconds, an ability with summon a plant. 2 charges. Replace her W with something more beneficial to her.

That, or give her passive an rp ratio.

J3 e c k e t t1 votes

her w is the reason she actually works. Without her plants she becomes less strong lux

Krys Star1 votes

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her w is the reason she actually works. Without her plants she becomes less strong lux

Her plants get wiped off instantly. AoE spells decimate them so fast, it's not even funny. Her plants only work half the time, both AI and functionality. The synergy of her kit is what makes her work. She also needs reduced mana costs because, well... Sure, Azir and Zyra are two different champions but he has such low mana costs compared to her extremely high mana costs when they're both using their soldiers/plants to dish out dps.

Stiv12342 votes

They should just try to give her a new passive, honestly. If you make the current easy to hit, she always trades 1-1 while otherwise it is useless. Something like this:

Passive: When Zyra stands still for X seconds, she enroots herself into the ground, gaining increased range on her spells and autoattacks, reduced mana costs on Q and E, and she recharges her seeds Y% faster. This effect ends when moves / persists for Z seconds after moving.

Similar to old Xerath W, stressing her immobility while gaining more power, but not on demand.

Hex the FenFen1 votes

I have mained Zyra mid for quite some time now and have been waiting for a new passive. A lot of people are starting to pick her up now for the mid lane which leads to more and more posts about buff for her which make me happy. I feel like her passive should be something like this since it goes along with her lore.

Passive: Every third damaging spell cast Zyra will automatically spawn a Carnivorous plant which heals Zyra for X amount of AP. If the plant stays alive for 20 seconds or is ulted by Zyra it starts dealing x amount of true damage for 3 attacks then dies.

Ser Garland1 votes

I think it would be cool if Zyra had multiple shots she could make when she dies. Like one of her plants, except you control the target. So it would be more like a skill shot based Karthus passive

J3 e c k e t t1 votes

You think Zyra's passive is useless? Have you seen Shyvana's? Literally +5 armor and magic resistance +10 when in dragon form.

Stellafreyja3 votes

You do know that her passive scales with level right? It goes up to +20 Armor and Magic Resist and doubles to +40 in Dragon form. Far from useless.

Ser Garland1 votes

Yeah no, Shyvana's Passive is amazing.

A Miss Fortune1 votes

I think Zyra also needs buffs else where, I've played her exclusively Mid but she feels like the most handicapped Mid Laner in the game. Her damage is considerably low to most, she has CC but it's easily avoidable aside from her E (except if it's at long ranges...), and she's totally skillshot reliant for damage too and it's easy to dodge all of her skillshots.

I think they should fix her plants so that they always focus enemy champions no matter if they leave the radius or not, remove .5 seconds off of her Q cast time and give it a higher AP ratio (Not base damage, since it would be a pretty big buff to Zyra Support where she does perfectly fine at.), and just give her passive a LOT more reliability and usefulness. Right now the damage at max rank is 440, It's true damage but there's no reason to be hit by it and the damage is very minimum.

Heckin Support1 votes

I don't get why they just don't add something to her passive. Tons of champions have passives that have more than 1 effect.

Ser Garland1 votes

Adding the cool down reduction to her passive which increases by level may be an option.

Gigahappytown1 votes

Just rework the passive The reason she was given a revenge type passive is because her other abilitys are so insanely strong even after consisent nerfs that if she had a real passive she would be broken and gutted

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