How do I Ziggs vs Viktor?

SergeantScuttler·Oct 17, 2016·1 votes·1,487 views

I just get shit on in lane... outtraded constantly. I don't normally die but I'm not sure how to deal with him. He might have been nerfed but it still feels like he destoys me every trade when I'm Ziggs. I actually have an easier time vs Ahri even though she's a harder counter when she gets 6 and some items. Moreover, after his first back, he starts waveclearing FASTER than Ziggs. Just lasers the wave and poof... while I have to E and Q several times to do it. I'd really appreciate some tips on this matchup.

6 Comments

The DeckownerOct 17, 20161 votes

just....don't trade with him. spam q and e for waveclear, and help side lane with ult.

SergeantScuttlerOct 17, 20161 votes

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just....don't trade with him. spam q and e for waveclear, and help side lane with ult.

He zones me. If I try to farm with Q only, I run out of mana before him and have awkward back timings. It's a good point that I may be able to roam/ult. assist more. Although, his waveclear makes it hard to roam in the way I would vs a Kennen etc.

The DeckownerOct 17, 20161 votes

well i guess in your situation you either ask your jungler for gank or ask jungler for blue.

Meep ManOct 17, 20161 votes

You do what Ziggs has always done for centuries and force the lane into a farm lane since no one has as efficient and safe wave clear as you do. Killing minion waves from 1300 units or so away is just really good for forcing a lane to not have nearly any PvP in it. If he starts clearing waves faster than you somehow with you using Q and E, then you are SoL. Max Q first, never trade, focus on wave clear, and make sure you wave clear quicker than him at all costs and you should never have problems.

SergeantScuttlerOct 17, 20161 votes

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You do what Ziggs has always done for centuries and force the lane into a farm lane since no one has as efficient and safe wave clear as you do. Killing minion waves from 1300 units or so away is just really good for forcing a lane to not have nearly any PvP in it. If he starts clearing waves faster than you somehow with you using Q and E, then you are SoL. Max Q first, never trade, focus on wave clear, and make sure you wave clear quicker than him at all costs and you should never have problems.

I can probably waveclear faster before he backs. Later, he definitely waveclears quicker because he needs only one ability for it. I guess I can try to push him in early though - at least if their jg isn't strong early.