Even when I make a nice escape into an enemy turret for a clutch execute, it feels a little bad that it makes it seem like I'm no different than a guy who suicided into 5 people after 10 pings. It also gives ammunition to ragers.
Ahri Body Pillow8 votesNo. Because regardless of if your death directly gave the enemy team gold, it still gave them the advantage. Any time that the enemy team has more players alive than your team, they have an advantage (Except when your own team is uber fed). It gives them the opportunity to pressure or even take objectives, such as tower or baron.
If you died, the fact of the matter is that you put yourself in a bad enough situation where you couldn't make it out alive, and now your team is at a disadvantage. There are literally no circumstances where it is better for you to be dead than alive. You made a mistake. They absolutely should count towards your KDA.
Ifneth3 votesYep, this is the reason.
Auz the Ripper4 votesYeah when you're in a situation where killing yourself is the best option, you probably made some poor choices leading up to that.
Selec6 votesYea it should. If you're being executed that means you did something wrong.
marpatt112 votesYea it should. If you're being executed that means you did something wrong.
At first glance, I was about to downvote this, but then I realized ^ this is right. If you have to get executed you had to have got caught out, are being chased down, chased too far for a kill, etc.
Daunt5 votesBut...you died. Whether it was to a champion or to a minion you made the mistake.
SpaghettiVase3 votesKda means nothing though.
Yaśuo Main12 votesOn grade scores yes it does
Terozu3 votesBut grade scores dont win you games.
Jerry SeinfeId12 votesbut they get you free stuff.
Yaśuo Main1 votesAnd thats also not the point of the entire post which tells me you are a waste of time, goodbye.
Terozu1 votesThe point of the post is they think KDA decides if it was a good or bad game.
That's not true.
Yaśuo Main1 votesThat's not the point at all. Infact that is off the mark, the purpose of the post is that executes from minions and creeps shouldn't hurt your KDA regardless. Nothing about if KDA decides the quality of the game.
Snowman Arc2 votesI like to have a good KDA alongside my winrates. Having a good winrate (let's say 63% over 100 games) is good, but if your KDA is something like 5.5 / 7 / 5.5, then you probably got lucky to win those games, because your performance was probably bad.
Terozu1 votesWhat about suicide strategies? Or support nunu?
Snowman Arc1 votesRare cases, I'm talking about general things.
Mysticman891 votesIt's not clear if grades treat executes differently or not, so even though we see 10/5/2, it might be computing kda as 10/3/2 behind the scenes. We know it was taking into account something like vision score long before we actually had a vision score stat, so the grade system is a bit more nuanced than just using outwardly visible numbers.
For what it's worth, when grading for RGMs was first a thing, people pointed out that executing in ARAM was good strategy and they shouldn't be penalised for it, and a rioter responded (sorry no citation) that they were aware. It's not them explicitly saying that executes don't count against you or anything super solid, but it is reason to believe that executes may be something handled differently than being killed by an enemy.
RainbowIcee1 voteshelps to identify who has been feeding and who is carrying their weight. Someone that goes for example 15/10/0 has a 3:2:0 kda or 1.5 kills per death. Which is pretty small gold lead given the gold he/she has fed. Then there's someone that's 6/2/2 this person hasn't been feeding much gold and has gotten some. That person sits at a 3:1:1 kda or basically 3 kills per death which is pretty sweet as they're making a noticeable less amount of gold vs what the person is netting for their team. Ofcourse this doesn't win you the game, however team fights can win you the game and this person is giving you an edge on them.
LordGeovanni2 votesKda doesnt really justify anything.
Supreme Senpai692 votesIt mostly feels bad because it affects your mastery score. The difference between an S and an A is you dying let's say. But let's say that death was you leading the enemy 5 on a wild goose chase while your team secured Baron, and the only way out was to dive into the enemy Nexus. That takes a lot of skill! Why are you being punished?
Honestly, in the early game, being executed is faster than recalling.
Executing is -generally- skill expression. It's also stupidity. But, stupidity that does not give the enemy team gold, which is what a death is. I don't think this can be coded easily so I don't mind if it doesn't happen. But it is a very good idea that can only benefit the game. It would negatively affect nobody so I'm not sure why anyone would be against this
Tomosima2 votesI second this
