What if we changed Mordekaiser into a Tank?

Rew711·Mar 10, 2016·4 votes·861 views

Change his passive to be at a standard fixed rate of 25 (+10% of max health) and no longer gives a 25% of shield left over and takes more time to go down, then change up some of Morde's abilities. (Mordekaiser's shield stays as is for 4 seconds, if no ability damage is given, shield decreases by 1 per second.

Mordekaiser's Q will now give Mordekasier 25% of his shield for each hit.

Mordekaiser's W will gain back its original look, and now deals damage without the need for being touched and instead of a heal, it gives Mordekaiser up to 25% of his shield (and an extra 25% from an ally) if he (and the ally) deal damage to enemies.

Mordekaiser's E will now instead of giving the most shield, give only 6/7/8/9/10% shield per enemy hit, and increases his shield value by 1 if it kills a minion or hits a champion and by 2 if it kills an enemy champion.

No changes to his R.

11 Comments

KingsgraveMar 10, 20163 votes

Tanks need CC to be Tanks

Rew711Mar 11, 20161 votes

I'm sorry I can't think of much else for CC.

Its so strong and game changing. You can put a slow on his E (maybe a knock up). Or maybe a knock up on his Q, unit collision on his W, and a slow on his E. That, with his shield will, can make him very tanky. (I just want Mordekaiser to stop being a hassle to work with.) ( •_•,)

DeloricVIMar 10, 20162 votes

Well, it would make sense. I don't know why Riot thought a champion with this design was meant to deal magic damage, and not be nearly indestructible, considering that Morde is literally made of metal, last I checked.

Malicious MetalMar 10, 20162 votes

How about no?

RalanrMar 10, 20161 votes

Where is the peel?

Rew711Mar 10, 20161 votes

( •_•)

his Q and E deal some good damage... don't know how to give him any CC without going too far... hm

W - instead of giving bonus MS, Mordekaiser and a ally gain the ability to move through units during the duration (does this count?)

RalanrMar 10, 20161 votes

It's rare to find tanks without any form of CC since that's what they use for peel. If you want him to be a tank, you need to give him some CC or other ways to peel.

I don't think unit collision avoidance would work.

Rew711Mar 10, 20161 votes

The only last resort I can think of is to take off his AD damage on his E and replace it with a 10/20/30/40/50% slow... or have his third Q hit do a stun.

But all in all, his Q would be the same.

His W now deals the damage per second without needing to touch, gives unit collision, and gives shield instead of a heal.

His E now gives bonus shield.

And his passive now lasts longer.

JbelsMar 10, 20161 votes

Not really a tank, more like a Nasus who gets harder and harder to kill

Rew711Mar 10, 20161 votes

I'm (more or less) following how Sion's W works. But, I also want Mordekaiser to not be punished for getting into range with his abilities.

I want his passive to be something he can rely on, and since he can only gain the shield through abilities, I don't want it to just disappear without giving him some assistance. But, at the same time, I don't want it to be too strong.
His abilities should give more to his passive, thereby making him harder to kill when in a fight. Its one thing to deal a tremendous amount of damage, but have to sacrifice your own health to do so makes it hard.
I want Mordekaiser to be able to have his shield grow, but at a steady rate anyone can really handle.

Gaining stacks from Mordekaiser's E will benefit him in the long-run. With no limit, Mordekiaser can have a fixed rate of over a hundred shield worth (+ 10% of his health). With 10% of his health factored in, he can gain from +80 to +400 shield worth, making his tank all the more strong.

Nasus's stacks only make him deadlier and don't add to him being harder to kill, but make him stronger and able to kill with more ease.

I also see no point in having a W that is suppose to heal Mordekaiser, but lacks the heal Darius can get. Its both stupid and insignificant. Needs to be together to deal damage? Not every ADC stays with their supports. Heals based off if its a minion or champion? Doesn't give the needed range to even do it properly. (Nor the needed MS, which I would rase to at least 335.)