Revert the Chalice of Harmony HARD gutting

Dominick Destine··1 votes·818 views

Chalice of Harmony since S1 was historically an item dedicated for hard-mana users but for some reason, in late S6 it was gutted to remove the mana regen passive and instead replaced it with a horribly misplaced HP regen passive.

Now maybe I'm seriously missing something, but what was the point of gutting/removing the best mana regen item the game?

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VoidStaresBack3 votes

It was changed as part of the shift in mage itemization away from mana regeneration and towards a support item, to prevent full AP mages from having near-infinite mana sustain.

Dominick Destine2 votes

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It was changed as part of the shift in mage itemization away from mana regeneration

That's exactly my point; What was the purpose in gutting it?

VoidStaresBack2 votes

I just told you what the point was, and it wasn't a "gutting" it was a shift into a different field. They moved mana sustain items out of the optimal buildpaths for standard AP mages and fully into the realm of supports, because they didn't like the amount of mana sustain mages could get.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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it wasn't a "gutting"

Yes it was.

they didn't like the amount of mana sustain

That's fine, the question why gut the best/only good mana regen in the game?

The items is completely useless now, the only benefit is that it is necessary for items which have better passives like Athene's Unholy Grail or Mikael's Crucible. The actual Chalice of Harmony's passive is garbo.

VoidStaresBack1 votes

It was the only good one for mid lane mages, not the only good one in general. And it's passive is quite good in poke-heavy bot lanes since it gives you better passive sustain than the enemy support. I rarely rush it, but that's more a function of "I have a lot of other items to build" and that I usually play against kill lanes bot.

Dominick Destine1 votes

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It was the only good one for mid lane mages

Exactly.

VoidStaresBack1 votes

And I've noted repeatedly why they removed it from them, so you have your answer from my first post onwards.

dakota saturn2 votes

For exactly the reason you said - you could buy chalice then never run oom and also be tankier vs ap champs.

It encourages brainless wave pushing instead of interacting with your opponent.

KVbqbFsC8e2 votes

Remember Ziggs?

Dominick Destine1 votes

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Remember Ziggs?

No.

That's exactly my point.

Marshbouy2 votes

Semi Daily DD shitpost

Ok sure but why1 votes

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