back in season 3 we could see teammates ping on loading screen

SwiftKitten88··10 votes·885 views

why was this removed?

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Krigjer6 votes

It created a toxic environment. You know those toaster jokes if someone takes a while to load? Same thing if they had high ping during loading screen. 'Oh no, mid has high ping, must be a foreigner!' And cue the endless insults.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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It created a toxic environment. You know those toaster jokes if someone takes a while to load? Same thing if they had high ping during loading screen. 'Oh no, mid has high ping, must be a foreigner!' And cue the endless insults.

and how that any different than seeing a player in either team take 5 min to reach 100%?

Krigjer3 votes

and how that any different than seeing a player in either team take 5 min to reach 100%?

It's not, but what players do with that information does differ.

Knowing how long your teammate is going to take to LOAD IN is useful information. Seeing it tick from 60% to 70% lets you visually know if your game has crashed/frozen or if they're just not loading.

Seeing if one of your teammates has high ping and singling them out for abuse is not useful.

LankPants2 votes

Loading time isn't even bound in any significant way by ping. If you have 200 ping it will take you 100 milliseconds longer than someone with 0 ping on the same PC as you, the time it takes for data to reach the server from your PC.

Load time has nothing to do with ping, only really the strength of your PC. It's impossible to determine that someone's playing from another country by the amount of time it takes them to load, where as you can work this out with ping.

Akali is SO HOT3 votes

"Wtf why are you playing this game wtih 200 ping everyone report Rengar thanks"

SwiftKitten881 votes

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"Wtf why are you playing this game wtih 200 ping everyone report Rengar thanks"

well if it was ranked i would report him XD, maybe not on Rengar but if he was playing some other ping reliant champs... yeah...

maybe it becuase i play nidalee and having high ping makes her impossible (your not going to land a spear at that ping)... but right now i dont play ranked because every 5 min or so my ping spikes from 66 to 180 for about 3 seconds... before going back down to 66.

obviously if its unranked thats fine... and certain champs dont really NEED low ping. (i mean hell i have seen NB3 play in Brazil server on certain champs can do fine)

but there ARE champs (like nidalee) that are VERY ping reliant.. and playing them at high ping IN RANKED is asking to lose.

k wìx2 votes

Riot removed this because it made people distrust teammates based on arbitrary numbers.

Kinda like rank.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Yet they keep rank around to appease those arrogant elitists lol.

Votable Jester1 votes

It also gives more incentive for people to play more, gives a good season objective (Gold+ for skin), and helps players easily get some idea of how skilled the people they are playing with are (there is at least some difference between Gold I and Bronze V).

Without ranked, I'd probably have gotten bored of this game a long while ago. It would be kinda like Super Smash games, really fun every so often, but repetitive after a bit. The ranking gets my competitive nature going and makes me play more (and I like free skins).

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

I played more when the game felt fair and balanced, not because rank mattered more then. But that's just a general complaint with riot repeatedly fiddling with the matchmaking code.

ChaddyFantome2 votes

because people would use it to exploit weak links in the enemy team obviously.

Sir Fuzzi2 votes

I remember you... Hero Attack, right? With iiequalsipi, and all that good stuff.

Riot removed it because the community will take just about anything negatively.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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I remember you... Hero Attack, right? With iiequalsipi, and all that good stuff.

Riot removed it because the community will take just about anything negatively.

yeah.. that was me XD didn't actaully expect anyone there to know me XD

i was #2 pred on HA after 7th string of zeph

Sir Fuzzi1 votes

Yeah. I like to call upon the times people were downright convinced Marauder and Firebat were the most OP heroes. I think people would shit an actual brick if they got hit by something like Dark Zealot, too. It was a different game with a different meta, but it had some valuable lessons. And yeah, String was good at everything though, I'm pretty sure he won everything. I mostly miss the beach map. I quit around the time the new dudes came out, the Broodling, Carrier? and... whatever Terran got.

As you can see, ping was removed for a good reason. You can now ping your ping (hah!) anyway, and I've literally never been in a case where people don't accept it as an answer. At least thus far.

Riot has to handle their playerbase very carefully because a lot of small things can blow up in big ways. It's like why we don't have voice chat-- it's one more thing for players to use. "You weren't listening to my voice chat? Wtf not?"

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

or they would see oh look top lane has a 157 ping so lets take advantage of him cuz of him having lag and so on...

SwiftKitten882 votes

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or they would see oh look top lane has a 157 ping so lets take advantage of him cuz of him having lag and so on...

... i don't think you understand the concept of TEAMMATES ping...

then again its _you _so you probably DO take advantage of your own teammates

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

but it showed it to every one both teams

but its you you cant understand any fukin thing [zombie-brand-facepalm]

SwiftKitten881 votes

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but it showed it to every one both teams

but its you you cant understand any fukin thing [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Yeah... but I'm not asking for it to go to both teams am I?

reading comprehension skills bro...

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

but that is why it was removed it showed both teams...

i dont care what your asking that is what it was and that is why its gone

Darkdemon6531 votes

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why was this removed?

It was a useful feature.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

how was it useful? it just got people flamed by their teammates and the enemy someone to focus unfairly cuz they had bad ping

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

"Toxicity"

Chijoku1 votes

Because it creates a toxic environment right from the start, and it allows the enemy team to have an unfair advantage (knowledge wise) vs a player. op.gg is one thing, but knowing someone's ping is blatantly bullshit.

Choi Young Jun1 votes

Its not season 3, its season 2 i believe. Have a picture of loading screen (Cuz i reached 999+ping)

Khaos Breaker1 votes

Unfortunately this community makes it so we can't have nice things.

With that having been said, sometimes I don't know which is worse; the toxic people or those that actually let it bother them to the point of complaining about it endlessly.

Toxicity has a cause/effect relationship. Remember how your parents used to tell you (if they were decent parents anyway), "if someone is teasing you just ignore them, they'll stop", and eventually they do. If someone is carrying on about your "toaster loading" the game, then just ignore it. If people just learned to not feed the trolls and further antagonize them, then there would be far less of them.

It's one thing when someone runs it down mid and ruins your game, it's another when they say "fuck you" and then you decide to go off on a tangent of your own.

What's the old saying, "it takes two people to start an argument"

Pacattack251 votes

I don't care about everyone else - I want to be able to see MY ping before I queue up - why is there no 'Ping test' that would at the very least give us a ball park number...

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