So many champions are just absurdly broken because of this one mastery. Fiora, AS stacking ADCs (Ashe in particular), Yasuo, Jax, Win Nhao, Yi, and anyone who does any kind of AS or a lot of attacks. It doubles their damage output with no drawback.
Can we just accept the fact that keystones were a terrible idea, and remove or heavily rework Fervor? Really tired of fucking Ashe/Yasuo WITH ZERO ARMOR PEN melting someone with 4.2k HP as if they were a glass ADC.
Dynikus4 votesI'm gonna guess you're referring to your recent game as rumble where you didn't build any armor?
Niyumi1 votesNo, I'm referring to every fucking game where some AS stacking asshole hard carries because they can right-click.
Dynikus6 voteswait, hold on. Are you telling me that attack damage carries are building attack damage and speed and carrying? Hold on, let me get the ceo of riot on the phone, he needs to hear about this.
Sohleks1 votesKinda yeah. It's potentially SUCH a strong mastery. After a few auto's it's like two BF swords mid game. 3 BF swords late game. Each BF sword is like 1300g. It's not quite a BF sword though because it doesn't crit or increase ability damage. But yeah. The potential of this mastery FAR EXCEEDS the others. It's kinda supposed to by design, but it's a bit ludicrous if you add up the numbers.
At this point though so many things that interact well with fervor has already been nerfed around it. I believe Kayle is next on the chopping block tbh (55% winrate lel)
At this point though I don't even mind anymore. It enables Gnar to build more tanky and still be a killer :3
I've been saying Fervor out of line all season. It wasn't so much devourer or Jax or rageblade or w/e lol. It was fervor all along.
The thing is this mastery almost kinda has to be this strong to feel like a meaningful and exciting choice. Maybe the curve needs to be smoothed out though as it kinda hyperscales with attackspeed and levels. Lower the ridiculous potential it has.... Though if it ends up being basically + 20 on hit damage that's a bit dull of a design.
You can't have a mastery with WAY more potential power than the others. While the game has been tuned around it this season it creates imbalances in other systems like items and champions. Watch. Once fervor is gone from the game on hit champions will crash so fking hard.
However maybe if we nerf Fervor we can buff Bork a little bit. It think that's a good idea. This might also help make warlords more viable on the hard hitting adcs. Bring on the Vayne meta.
Will admit, it IS neat it can be an option for champs that don't exactly maximize it though.
windwolf7771 votesJust kinda curious, but which is better on 
? I've been using Thunderlord's on all 3 of them, but now I'm kinda curious about which is better.
I also do jungle a lot of the time, and this is what I normally use http://pyroblasty.github.io/masteries/#CvClyClCvCvKY (I might do AP jax but even in bot games that's very rare)
BUT I was wondering if at least on because in ult he attacks so fast and comparatively, thunderlord's would have more downtime, if http://pyroblasty.github.io/masteries/#ClClCvKClCvyY this would be a better set up. ANy help is greatly appreciated. Thank you anyone who can help.
(My general items for are 
and the other 2 slots are left situational for either more damage or survivability.)