If there won't be more nerfs for kha/rengar/lb/kat/jayce/camille/corki...

option paralysis·Feb 12, 2017·36 votes·2,262 views

I'm seriously going to stop playing ranked. I got from p3 to d2 and I can't take it anymore. I'm tired of those fucking champions, if one gets through the ban phase, you just got yourself a broken champion + full lethality and I see no fun in playing against that. And if someone needs to ban counters to his pick and lets multiple broken champs through, then the game just becomes a 1 second team fight fiesta. It's so dumb. Like many people said, last patch had a good direction of nerfs, but they were nowhere near enough.

18 Comments

Fisher No ChainsFeb 12, 201713 votes

I think they're just delaying nerfs simply because they're literally halving the bonus damage you get from masteries.

As a LeBlanc main myself, I think that the masteries changes will indeed hurt all assassins, so just wait.

h5LYF41LamFeb 12, 20172 votes

the nerfs from the masteries are not even gonna touch most of them. Kha cant be allowed to deal 6 billion damage with a q when he has such a long jump with a reset on kills. I dont think kata is necesairily broken Corki is op.(first time in the history of league of legends corki is busted and its not 1 month before LCS) Rengar is getting a nerf on his W since it will not longer cleanse but he is still strong. Jayce is the most busted top lane champion in the game and riot emploees are a bunch of cowards not even bothering nerfing him properly. Camille is 100% gonna get another nerf.

Rew711Feb 13, 20171 votes

Not that I play League right now but each of these Champs do have weaknesses.

If you know Kha is coming, its hard for him to harass you. Vision works. I feel that if you have having a hard time with him (primarily bot or mid) try going a Champ that can take some hits like Kassadin or even Heimerdinger would be fun to see (though OP in some situations).

I'm not going to go through how each of these guys have easy counters but you make it out that these guys are just too strong when its more or less someone (or a good few people) started using these guys and learned how to use them against the run of the mill selected Champs. You have to understand that this game has more than your 10-20 select champions in its roster and that branching out and finding ways to work around something is a skill highly regarded and very needed in a game like this.

Personally, just seeing Champs continuously get nerfed over and over until another overly nerfed champion becomes relevant again just to see it get more nerfs is just stupid. People should probably try and see what counters Corki before going on rants on how he "has too much harass" or what not. I, myself, went through a period of time playing as Corki a lot (got him to Rank 5 on how much I play him) and know for a fact that most of his strength comes from his abilities which is something other ADCs don't really need to rely on, such as Vayne or Jinx.

Nerfs are needed but they should (more or less) be few and instead of promoting nerfs, where did they thought process go of counter picking go?

coreychichiFeb 13, 20172 votes

"If you know Kha is coming, its hard for him to harass you." No it's really not.

https://youtu.be/iklqsauPd3Q?t=717

AhristocatsFeb 12, 20176 votes

priviet comrade, and gj for climbing that high

join the club of people that realised high elo is garbage because riot won't balance the game around it= you will see the same champs every 9 months

option paralysisFeb 12, 20171 votes

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priviet comrade, and gj for climbing that high

join the club of people that realised high elo is garbage because riot won't balance the game around it= you will see the same champs every 9 months

yo bruh, thanks. Can I ask if you played on eune too ? Because hearing "eune xd shit server" fucked up my head and I can't stop thinking if it's actually worse. I know challenger is only different because pro's play on euw. But logically, people are people and every server should be the same, I guess. But hearing people talking shit about eune for 3 years made me even doubt it myself.

PoskeFeb 12, 20175 votes

Kha and rengar just got nerfed but lethality got buffed Le bl was nerfed like 4 patches in a row Katarina was nerfed gunblade was nerfed Jayce got nerfed last patch Camile got nerfed last patch

I dont think corki even needs a nerf

BlåbæretFeb 12, 20173 votes

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Kha and rengar just got nerfed but lethality got buffed Le bl was nerfed like 4 patches in a row Katarina was nerfed gunblade was nerfed Jayce got nerfed last patch Camile got nerfed last patch

I dont think corki even needs a nerf

Just because they got nerfed doesn't mean they got nerfed enough, what kind of fallacy logic are you following? lol...

Corki definitely needs to be nerfed.

SlythionFeb 12, 20174 votes

have you even looked at the plans for next patch or are you just blindly raging about op champions?

LBmyBBFeb 12, 20173 votes

Get good

WeatheredFeb 12, 20173 votes

Kha got punched down to a sub 50% winrate and didn't even focus lethality last patch... ( item 1412 item 3071 )

CouffeFeb 12, 20172 votes

Better than the tank meta.

The Yetii RiderFeb 13, 20171 votes

Counter to lethality is armor. Randuin's, Dead Man's Plate, Sunfire Cape, Ninja Tabi, Frozen Heart, Blsck Cleaver. Simple.

Synnx7Feb 13, 20171 votes

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Counter to lethality is armor. Randuin's, Dead Man's Plate, Sunfire Cape, Ninja Tabi, Frozen Heart, Blsck Cleaver. Simple.

% health dmg/true dmg. simple

statelesskillerFeb 13, 20174 votes

item 3036 this broken ass item says hi

TwinkieProFeb 13, 20171 votes

To be honest, its more fair the original last whisper that gave 40% total armor pen. The problem comes with stacking all of them.

statelesskillerFeb 13, 20173 votes

the other LW was alot fairer. because this one PUNISHES you for building any form of tankyness

here is how tanks are supposed to build

oh they have penetration? ill build health

oh they have alot of base damage? ill build armor

LDR though says "oh you build armor? lol 40% doestn matter" and thats FINE. AD's need a answer for armor stacking. the issue is this part

LDR says "oh you have a shit ton of health compared to me? LOL NOW I DO MORE DAMAGE TO YOU. and most of the time i find it ends up with being the exact same damage then if you handt built tank stats

while it isnt the best example my main gp is a great way to show this off. going pen plank a barrel will do . . .about 600-900 damage depending on lethality scaling and the champion in question

against tanks it will do about 300. until i get LDR where it goes back up to 600-900.

so its like . . .the only thing that actually matters in that situation is the sheer raw health value. i mean i guess thornmale is a good counter to LDR because you only get armor, and no health, but still its BS