I just tried to play AP supps w/o mana pots

ZzEslIolZQ··2 votes·1,312 views

Pretty much Riot telling you to go fuck yourself

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DJ Di02 votes

I don't know about the others, but I played a few Sona games and once you get Frostfang I don't feel crippled in mana issues anymore.

The base mana regen buff +Frostfang mana regen buff helped a lot.

I think Zyra is going to need some more help, though; she still has major mana problems, imo.

1000angrybees1 votes

Honestly, I take your word for it as a fellow Sona player. How is it when you get Frost Queen, btw? 150% sounds really nice.

DJ Di01 votes

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Honestly, I take your word for it as a fellow Sona player. How is it when you get Frost Queen, btw? 150% sounds really nice.

It feels pretty nice tbh. Unless you're constantly spamming W you won't go oom. Heck, you might even be able to if you go another mana regen item, since I was going an AP Support build (Eye of the Wathchers, item 3117 oritem 3158 /item 3100 /item 3041 /item 3089

Eye of the Watchers is pretty nice, since you don't have to worry about Frostfang wasting a slot anymore, and you're still buildling up gold.

You can take Mobis if you take Stormraider's Surge, or Lucidity if you take Windspeaker's Blessing (this is really good on Sona since she gets the benefit of both the shield and healing increase +some resistences)

Also Dark Seal building into Mejais is really cool, you only have to spend 400 gold to start stacking assists for AP (or securing kills hue).

Sheen costing less helps a lot, and Lich Bane getting CDR is really nice, too.

I'm thinking about trying an actual Support build and see how much she benefits from Windspeaker's Blessing without much AP. I'm thinking (item 2049 eye of the watchers, item 3222 ,item 3117 , item 3190 ,item 3050 ,item 3065

VeryGreen2 votes

Riots thinks that instead of 1.5 mana regen, 1.7 should do the trick -_- okay haha whatever

XxobscenexX1 votes

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Pretty much Riot telling you to go fuck yourself

get cookies, problem solved

HentRex1 votes

Have they been change? Or is it still only giving 10 mana total?

VeryGreen1 votes

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get cookies, problem solved

cookies dont restore mana over time, thats terrible advice. They only restore like 20 mana or some REALLY low amount of mana.

FANTAsticOrange1 votes

Chill.. they're making compensation in base Mana and Mana Regen scalings. Plus, masteries are being buffed and likely will add more Mana Rgn and the such.

Just gotta wait.

Poop Jelly1 votes

New support/ward item + that mini mejah really helps. I just played Zyra supp (even without supp masteries), and I sustain just fine.

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