Brand's ult needs to bounce off hourglass

ZzEslIolZQ··43 votes·1,426 views

Weekly reminder from a Brand player

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GloriousKaiser8 votes

You know what would be even better?

Give his ult the Ryze E treatment.

Now he's actually scary 1v1.

EDIT to the response: Reduced damage of course, I'm not that harsh.

Yfrappefort2 votes

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WhereTheNamesAt3 votes

Because Ryze's E doesn't do 1050 base with 150% AP scaling max damage to a single target...

Kitten of Evil1 votes

Ryze's E isn't an ultimate... also, Nunu's ultimate does at least that much damage to a single target (or even a bunch of targets), if we want to compare one skill in isolation.

Fiora's ult = 1001 + 234% bonus AD max to one target Nunu's ult = 1125 + 250% AP max to all targets in range Fiddles' ult = 1625 + 225% AP max to all targets in range

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

Fiora: melee carry, needs something ridiculous to be viable Nunu: channel Fiddlesticks: countered by wards and knockbacks lol

The terror of a item 3116's Brand will forever be bruised in players' memory if it rebounces off him.

Gunpoint1 votes

Untargetability is too ridiculous lol

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

I hate MasterYi more for the short CD untargetability, massive dmg reduction, immunity to slows and massive speed boost.

Fiora gets 1 untargetability and 1 parry lol. Don't get me wrong, when she's fed she works like fed Akali and nobody likes playing against those 1v5ers. But someone still needs to feed her really hard for her to get there.

j j1 votes

Any target projectile absorbed by hourglass EX> ( brand ult, veigar ult, Ryze Q etc..... ) should be redirected to nearest target (champion) if there is one or target minion (if the skill allows that) within a certain small range. That would be intense.

trexmixG1 votes

except that would ruin the point of Zhonyas...

j j1 votes

No, hourglass has several purposes that is just one of them. The usefulness of hourglass even after that minor change would outweigh it ten fold. It would still be bought but against certain champions as previously mentioned (brand, veigar, ryze or anybody with target projectiles) you would need to actually be mindful where you hourglass (only if you have a targeted projectile incomming). In a 1 v 1 situation it would have no changes (as even if you hour glassed minions could get hit however the spell would be over by the time you are out of hourglass). But for the sake of team fights it could possibly be an interesting design and further add slight counter play to hourglass (or if you prefer a draw back). That would be like you saying "flash back in the day when it popped projectiles was only used to pop projectiles. Not true and it didn't ruin the "point" of flash.

Even since zhonya's ring it has and will always be one of the best items in the game simply because it has the most power active. There are very few counters aside from stunning, preventing somebody to use it. But for champions who use target projectiles it completely ruins their potential and hourglass already is a "must have" on nearly every ap mid. I think this would be an interesting change personally. Hourglass has too many pluses with little negatives when it comes to team fighting. In a 1 v 1 situation it should retain it's usefulness but in a teamfight popping projectiles is too strong. I think it'd also add to the humor aspect of league.

As it stand line of sight projectiles will go through you when you hourglass. (that I am okay with because these projectiles can and most likely will hit your teammates) I've accidently gotten several of my teammated killed this way saving my own butt sometimes it was worth it though. But even more so allowing targeted projectiles also have a chance to bounce off of you or continue in the direction they were going (changing them to Line of sight) would be awesome. Banshees veil already serves as a means to block ultimate powerful spells even targeted ones. Hourglass should not also provide defense vs targeted projectiles without bouncing them or converting the targeted spell into a line of sight abilitity. This type of change actually helps veigar, brand out in team fights given the circumstances happen or other champions who utilize spells as such.

The user would not be hit by the projectile but a fellow teammate could. So conflicted between having them bounce (maybe only brands R and ryzes skill would function like that) but for say an ultimate like veigars would be converted into a line of sight ability. I think it'd be interesting.

trexmixG1 votes

in the case of brand, it makes zero sense. zhonyas makes you untargetable, and if the brand ult bounces off you, it defeats the purpose of being untargetable.

j j2 votes

You still prevent the damage and prevent focus on you for the duration of hourglass active. It does not defeat the purpose. you aren't able to be targeted but prior to using hourglass you were targeted there for the skill should still finish as such (just not on you). I think personally it'd be an interesting mechanic to further help outdated kits in face of their many counters. Hourglass's active does not put emphasis on blocking target projectiles. It's emphasis is on preventing focus on you and protecting you for the duration.

ZzEslIolZQ2 votes

...what...you would still be immune, it just wouldn't consume the ult and render it completely worthless considering it's suppose to be an AoE ult. And they already did this for Fiora but Riot can only focus on one old champ per patch so here we are.

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