Can we just nerf amumu

Succubús GF··3 votes·1,575 views

He is absurdly strong, and honestly that kit is just annoying and stupid strong. His ult if landed can cc the entire enemy team. He does percent health. His ap scalings are fairly strong. Like i kinda dont find balance in a champion with 4-5k health dishing out 2k damage and i say this frequently but its true. he has a gap closer, gl kiting that

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Genocide Victim5 votes

Amumu is a low Elo pick. He is not good at high Elo.

Succubús GF1 votes

Okay but they dont base everything ever on high elo.

Dynikus4 votes

they kinda do actually, because it makes the most sense to. How a champion does in high elo says a lot more about how strong a champion is than how they do in low elo.

Succubús GF1 votes

Pretty sure they have specifically stated that it isnt all on high elo because noob stomp champions are toxic to low elo and easily abused.

redfeenix1 votes

Yes they do.... they base ALL BALANCE at platinum/diamond levels, but for the next few patches they're balancing for highest tiered competitive play (ie worlds).

Handy Sandy 2 votes

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Okay but they dont base everything ever on high elo.

The balancing system is based on high elo though, because those people know all the game mechanics and stuff and can understand if anything is actually overpowered because then they couldn't actually do anything against them.

the weeaboo2 votes

Yeah his winrate is super high. Perhaps a bit too high. Will probably get some tweaks/nerfs in the furture.

zlumpy2 votes

He isn't doink 2k dmg if he has 5k health lol.

Fondling Gems1 votes

Depends, If he has a liandries and you are pretty tanky yourself then he ccan definitely do that much damage in a sustained fight easily.

zlumpy1 votes

True but sustain fights don't tend to be too much of problem. Most people will start a slow sustain fight, do an evaluation, and just "nope" out early. It really only becomes a problem with immobile squishies and people who get greedy. Since ammu is a diver and divers tend to be good vs immobile squishies I'm fine with that. Greedy people should never have anything changed for them to play like they do imo.

Fondling Gems1 votes

Yeah but in teamfights if Amumu doesn't get knocked out early then that much damage is easily possible.

zlumpy2 votes

Dunno some teamfights Amumu can get dropped real hard right off the bat even if he builds tanky.

It isn't like amumu hasn't been a problem before I just think in the current scheme of the game he isn't all that bad. He really becomes a problem in team comp more than just by himself. He is the perfect jungler for a heavy wombo team.

Fondling Gems1 votes

I agree, I was just pointing out for the sake of the argument that if he isn't taken out immediately he can easily do that much damage to a high health enemy while being over 5k health himself.

zlumpy1 votes

Yeah but I can think of several champs that applies to as well. Like mundo or voli bear. They don't have the wombo potential but they can also do quite a bit of sustain if they get ignored.

Arakadia1 votes

He proba won't have much armor then.

Searo1 votes

git gud

Handy Sandy 1 votes

You can easily predict his gapcloser and dodge it (It's so slow.) and other champions can cc an entire team..Orianna, Yasuo, Ekko, Bard, Gangplank, Vel'koz, Morgana, Fiddlesticks, Syndra and Veigar to name a few. That's why he's used as a jungler, because suprise is the only way he can actually land a bandage toss. He's also pretty useless without his ult.

Succubús GF1 votes

When his bandage toss alone can do about 600-700 damage? The range is long so if he is in a situation where he is just trying to grab onto anything, he can. The point is champions like ori, yasuo and velkoz arent tanks. They wont just absorb tons and tons of damage. Not gonna get into ekko because thats ass cancer and i dont wanna complain about 2 champions on one thread :3

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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When his bandage toss alone can do about 600-700 damage? The range is long so if he is in a situation where he is just trying to grab onto anything, he can. The point is champions like ori, yasuo and velkoz arent tanks. They wont just absorb tons and tons of damage. Not gonna get into ekko because thats ass cancer and i dont wanna complain about 2 champions on one thread :3

at max rank amumu's bandage toss does 280 magic damage (+70%ap) so lets say he has 100 ap so 280+70=350 ap i dont see him doing 600-700 damage on his Q majority of his damage comes from his aoe on W that does %hp damage

Handy Sandy 1 votes

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When his bandage toss alone can do about 600-700 damage? The range is long so if he is in a situation where he is just trying to grab onto anything, he can. The point is champions like ori, yasuo and velkoz arent tanks. They wont just absorb tons and tons of damage. Not gonna get into ekko because thats ass cancer and i dont wanna complain about 2 champions on one thread :3

He isn't going to do 600-700 damage if he's building anything close to being a tank. His bandage toss is his main source of damage and it's easy to dodge if you're actually paying attention, he can't actually kill people unless the enemy was like someone with 800 health. You don't dodge something by running in a straight line btw.

WolfChases1 votes

It's too late man go to sleep.

redfeenix1 votes

Its 6.45 who goes to sleep so early? Oh you're EU its probably night time there?

WolfChases1 votes

O ye I am from EU it was 2 in the morning here xD

InfinitexMortal1 votes

I agree nerf him before he returns the his perma ban old days when shen and amumu were banned every game

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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I agree nerf him before he returns the his perma ban old days when shen and amumu were banned every game

it wont happen he isnt that strong

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

Amumu is fine, it is to easy to invade and counter jungle. he has a hard time carrying games he is a tank who has cc if u get alil bit of ap he has some high base damage but is super mana hungry and most of his abilities have high cool downs. so yea i dont think he needs a nerf

FurretHasAGlock1 votes

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Amumu is fine, it is to easy to invade and counter jungle. he has a hard time carrying games he is a tank who has cc if u get alil bit of ap he has some high base damage but is super mana hungry and most of his abilities have high cool downs. so yea i dont think he needs a nerf

While he is indeed easy to invade and counter jg, the thing about carrying games is completely false. not partially, COMPLETELY. You try dealing with a 5/0 amumu running at your team with cinderhulk rylais and liandries. Everything changed when the mumu nation attacked...Amumu

Handy Sandy 1 votes

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While he is indeed easy to invade and counter jg, the thing about carrying games is completely false. not partially, COMPLETELY. You try dealing with a 5/0 amumu running at your team with cinderhulk rylais and liandries. Everything changed when the mumu nation attacked...Amumu

Try dealing with any champion that's 5/0 with a semi full build.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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While he is indeed easy to invade and counter jg, the thing about carrying games is completely false. not partially, COMPLETELY. You try dealing with a 5/0 amumu running at your team with cinderhulk rylais and liandries. Everything changed when the mumu nation attacked...Amumu

well any champ can carry if get fed... so thats nether here nor there.... a sona can carry as support of fed... but when you think of carries in the sense of the word you are looking at your full build damage builders champs/roles

Aviatinq1 votes

Lots of people do %hp damage. He doesn't do as much as others. Build ap and you won't be tanky.

As for cc the entire team: Alistar Anivia Annie AurelionSol Chogath Ekko Gnar Malphite Nautilus Lissandra Zac Veigar Sona Syndra Swain Bard

Probably missed a few but w/e. Some of them are also a stretch but it's not impossible.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

typical Amumu build is something similar to this item 1401 item 3110 item 3151 item 3065 item 3116 item 3111

or if they wanna go lil more ap they can go item 1414 item 3068 item 3116 item 3151 item 3001 item 3047

chippy5121 votes

You can easily outplay Amumu by simply not bunching together, he'll still be able to lockdown at least 1 person but it helps a lot. inb4 "team always groups too close"

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