Nothing angers me more than a 4 man premade not speaking the native language.

Hibeki·Feb 13, 2015·13 votes·1,256 views

ESPECIALLY when they KNOW english, but they wont speak it.

This is an ENGLISH server, no other languages are listed on the NA west server. Speak english or leave.

It is absolutely unreasonable that you get to leave someone out of the loop since you don't "Feel" like speaking english

This doesn't go for just english by the way, if you go play on the korean server you should speak KOREAN, or PORTUGESE in brazil

this is ABSOLUTELY unreasonable.

41 Comments

Surr20plzFeb 13, 20155 votes

First of all no one cares about french canadia, no one.

Second, yes this is an English Server.

Write in English or gtfo.

AbyssphereFeb 13, 20151 votes

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First of all no one cares about french canadia, no one.

Second, yes this is an English Server.

Write in English or gtfo.

It's not an English language server. Just because it is the predominant language of the region the server is for does not make it an English language server. Unless a "Non-English NA Server" appears, there'll never be such a thing as an NA server with a specific language.

HibekiFeb 13, 20152 votes

Any other server has descriptions for other languages.

Go look at EU regions and they have multiple languages. NA only has english, so speak it or leave.

Surr20plzFeb 13, 20151 votes

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It's not an English language server. Just because it is the predominant language of the region the server is for does not make it an English language server. Unless a "Non-English NA Server" appears, there'll never be such a thing as an NA server with a specific language.

It is. Stop pretending it's not or go away.

TheDuelist999Feb 13, 20154 votes

what about french canadians

HibekiFeb 13, 20152 votes

English is the primary language in canada, so yes.

They have french roots, but if you go into any store, restaraunt, or anything public you don't hear them speaking french.

Just like America has british roots, but we speak american, and not british. They both are english but two entirely different dialects.

TheDuelist999Feb 13, 20154 votes

depends on where in Canada you go dude their are parts where French is spoken more than English there is a reason a large chunk of the signs have the words in both french and English

Russian DollFeb 13, 20154 votes

What? In every province EXCEPT ONE, English is the first language, Quebec = French. If you come to QC, we will make an effort to answer you in English, but it's french. When I go to the united states, I am still the one to make an effort speakin english, and when you're coming, you're crying like babies because all french canadians dont speak english. There's NO rule who said we can't write in English, if I want to talk to my friends ONLY i'll write in English, if I want you to understand too, then ill write english, this is north america server, not an English server.

HibekiFeb 13, 20153 votes

then you can fuck off if you wont do english. This is a team game, you communicate with everyone

Russian DollFeb 13, 20152 votes

I'mma quote myself since you don't understand " if I want you to understand too, then ill write english ", I can write in English, I can ping you too, otherwise, no need to. I usually don't even write in French because we're on Skype, but my best friend, her internet is shit so she got disconnected on skype, I wont write her in English about it because it has nothing to do with the game

HibekiFeb 13, 20152 votes

I understand that, but if you DONT speak english, you are in the wrong.

Russian DollFeb 13, 20152 votes

Nope, sorry. At least you found a proof/rule written by Riot explaining that we don't have the right, I'm not in the wrong. As long as we are not insulting others people in our language I don't see any problems. Do you know how much different languages are speaking in North America? Even in Montreal we have place who people only speak Chinese. I'm not getting mad at them because I don't understand, come on...

HibekiFeb 13, 20154 votes

Uhh there is a report option for refusing to communicate

If you refuse to speak the native language, you are refusing to communicate. That's reportable.

Russian DollFeb 13, 20151 votes

We don't refuse too.. You're trying to tell me that they didnt ping, they didnt say one word in English, nothing at all? Even on Skype i'm pinging my friends... maybe you were with 4 really stupid people.

HibekiFeb 13, 20152 votes

Nope, not a single word of english and just a chat filled with boxes from a language I dont have or understand.

Russian DollFeb 13, 20152 votes

Well, then I'm sorry you have to deal with people lke that, I think its disrespectful if they dont use a single word of English to let you know what they were doing. I just think that when they're speaking their language to say things that aren't useful to the match its okay, otherwise they should write in English. The only time I'm not gonna force myself to write in English its when they start insulting the one second they see a French word. If you did so ( I'm not saying you did ok?), I can understand why.

AbyssphereFeb 13, 20155 votes

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English is the primary language in canada, so yes.

They have french roots, but if you go into any store, restaraunt, or anything public you don't hear them speaking french.

Just like America has british roots, but we speak american, and not british. They both are english but two entirely different dialects.

"American" is not a language. You speak English, and the difference in dialects is minimal.

HibekiFeb 13, 20153 votes

no, when you say a dialect, you dont say the language, you say the dialect name.

And the difference in dialects are pretty big actually. Go talk to an englishman and how they talk is completely different, not incomprehensable, but still different.

straight4freeFeb 13, 20154 votes

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no, when you say a dialect, you dont say the language, you say the dialect name.

And the difference in dialects are pretty big actually. Go talk to an englishman and how they talk is completely different, not incomprehensable, but still different.

I'm a linguist, don't get me started on what defines something as a dialect and what is defined as a language.

Seriously.

Don't.

HibekiFeb 13, 20152 votes

Right im sure you are a linguist, Im sure you have just HAPPENED to go to college and majored in this.

Don't try to act like you are, we all know you aren't.

straight4freeFeb 13, 20151 votes

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Right im sure you are a linguist, Im sure you have just HAPPENED to go to college and majored in this.

Don't try to act like you are, we all know you aren't.

Lol? Where does this anger come from?

AbyssphereFeb 13, 20151 votes

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no, when you say a dialect, you dont say the language, you say the dialect name.

And the difference in dialects are pretty big actually. Go talk to an englishman and how they talk is completely different, not incomprehensable, but still different.

I know exactly the differences between American English and British English, as well as the differences between those dialects and Hiberno-English. They are cosmetic differences at best, with the only thing of significance being slightly different spelling conventions..

Killer X 12Feb 13, 20153 votes

French.

KarlyrFeb 13, 20152 votes

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English is the primary language in canada, so yes.

They have french roots, but if you go into any store, restaraunt, or anything public you don't hear them speaking french.

Just like America has british roots, but we speak american, and not british. They both are english but two entirely different dialects.

You are desillusionnate... Come to Quebec for a change. (And I'm not talking about Montreal. Quebec City.) You'll hear more French than you ever heard. Some people doesn't even KNOW english.

Deal with it sir. Those who doesn't speak english in quebec do the same.

mi ramfanFeb 13, 20154 votes

You should consider learning another language. Most people in countries outside the US know at least two languages. Plus it could help you in League games.

...

What do you expect anyone to do about this? Either learn another language yourself or just deal with it and move on to the next game.

ShinirupFeb 13, 20152 votes

Or others could move to one of the other servers where there language is spoken?

And what to do seems easy. Either insert something to detect other languages and cause a notification to speak that of the server. Or make it a separate reportable offence besides failure to communicate. Then take those who are reported and forcibly move them to the server that speaks their language (can only be moved once, so people don't use to switch servers all the time), ban them, or treat the offence more harshly in general. Thus those who speak both will have a reason to speak English in game.

Russian DollFeb 13, 20152 votes

yes right move me on the european server with a 482390483 ping? lol nope, i belong to NA.

ShinirupFeb 13, 20152 votes

And you seem to be quite capable of speaking English. So you may choose to do so and thus not get moved. Fail to see the issue.

Russian DollFeb 13, 20151 votes

That's because it happens to me to write things in French. We were starting a game then the first 10 seconds my friend told me he couldnt join the skype call, so i answered him "ok 1 minute" and the fifth guy aays "fuck you french fags" then disconnect. Of course i woulve write to him in English, but he coulve reported me ans I wouldve been deported because of an idiot

ShinirupFeb 14, 20151 votes

But he disconnected so couldn't have reported you? As he would have to played in a game to do so? Not Disconnected? Which is much more time for the Tribunal or whatever to look at and see if only spoke once? Though personally I don't have as much of an issue with French. Unless they didn't speak English at all. But that is just personal Bias. Over sees languages bother me heavily. Especially the Asian languages, given they are symbols, and not the official language of anywhere in NA, besides Vancouver. Yet have seen many people only speaking them recently.

HibekiFeb 13, 20152 votes

So instead of others learning ONE language when they go (Since english is the trade language o the world, it's usually learned in most contries anyways) I should have to learn a whole BUNCH of languages. I should have to learn the european languages, korean, chinese, japanese etc. to compensate for people flooding in and not speaking the language?

No, if you move to another server you should be able to and will speak the native language. End of story.

PrinceOfStormsFeb 13, 20153 votes

In that case, it's your fault for not speaking the language of your teammates.

Teridax68Feb 13, 20153 votes

I think language is a bit of a red herring here. The main issue I take when I play with premades is often that they just don't communicate at all with their pickups, who are stuck trying to guess what their team's doing while two, three or four members are talking to each other on a voice chat service (and, occasionally, in teamspeak in a language that's not English). It doesn't matter what language they're using to communicate, what matters is that they should acknowledge your existence as a member of their team and communicate to you as well. Even if your premade allies aren't communicating verbally, or at least not in a manner you can understand, they can always use pings, which are universally understandable, to give indications to the whole team.

Russian DollFeb 13, 20152 votes

Yes I agree with you, I'm a French Canadian and I'm playing with 3 or 4 friends, when we're son Skype we ping a lot and write in English for the fifth person because we know that he/she can't know what we're saying. I can understand when they write in another language it can be frustrating but as long as they communicate enough with you I think it is okay

A HugFeb 13, 20152 votes

I don't mind them talking in their own language, just as long as they are filling me in with important plans or details here and there :3 So that way I can help in team plays

ShinirupFeb 13, 20151 votes

I have noticed a recent vast increase in the number of people speaking asian languages over the last few days. Seen more in the last 3 days than the last 3 years before that. Not sure if it is due to the Chinese New Year or what. But it makes games far less fun.

JunkοFeb 13, 20151 votes

I play with some Slovak and Czech friends (and they can all speak the other), and it kinda annoys me when they speak in it instead of English.

OrangesilkFeb 13, 20151 votes

It's fine, but then all east coasters who are migrating to the LAN servers because "muh ping" better learn spanish in order to play in the spanish speaking server, It's getting kinda annoying that as you move up in ranks, you find more people completely unable to speak the native language of the server. Yes, most people on the LAN server can actually communicate in english, because refusing to learn foreign languages is more of an American thing, but it's terribly annoying to go "Ey Ahri, Teemo me caga la partida y a ti no, te parece si cambiamos de linea?", only to get answered with a "lolwut?" and being forced to bumble around in an unfamiliar language because YOUR east coast servers suck.

rth2Feb 13, 20151 votes

Here's the thing. Server's don't exist to segregate people based on language. They exist to segregate people based on location to the server. This way you should, in theory, play with people with good latency. This creates a set up for a better gaming experience.

Communication is not integral to the game. That is, the game does not explicitly punish you for not communicating. I don't lose 500 health because I didn't warning ping. Communication is all secondary. It is nice, you should communicate, it helps with teamwork a ton, etc... but it is not required by the game. If people speaking in other languages makes you angry for some reason, just say "I only speak English. Please use Smart Pings." and if they don't respond in English, then just mute them and use smart pings. That way you can just pretend they are English speaking players who are not typing.

There are many many players who achieve success by jumping into game, mute all players, and don't type. Do these players deserve to be banned from the server because they refuse to talk to you? Let alone in the language of your choosing? No they don't. If you don't like how someone is talking Riot gave you a way to deal with that, it's the mute button. They also gave us an explicit way to communicate regardless of language, it is Smart Pings.

Before this silly thing comes up, yes I know there is a "refusing to communicate" report tag. However, this is usually for somebody specifically going out of their way to not communicate to you or the team. Such as, they are talking to the enemy team but refusing to talk to your team at all. Even after multiple polite requests to communicate. However, it sounds like these folks are communicating, just you can't understand it. Maybe they can't understand you. If they live closest to that server though, and get the best ping there, then they belong on that server. If you really think they aren't communicating report it to Riot explaining that you asked them (multiple times) to smart ping and they never would. If it gets reported enough then Riot will see it and make a decision. After all, smart pings do appear in the chat log (they are communication).