MMR Penalty For Duoing Needs REVISION

koochario·7/2/2018, 4:21:12 PM·52 votes·16,361 views
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/League_system

Duoing creates a massive imbalance in match making and you won't always have a duo on your team. The average MMR penalty for duoing is reasonable ONLY in the average case for duos. However, duos with well-practiced strategies (perhaps funneling), good synergy etc. have an incomparable advantage to the MMR penalty. Thus, the MMR penalty should INCREASE if a duo players a lot of games together and wins (not just 2-5). Their advantage only grows as their strategies are refined. Essentially, duoing is fair if people are just playing for fun together but if they actually intend to climb and think about how to maximally exploit duoing, it becomes grossly unfair and the system should adjust for this once it's obvious this is happening.

Moreover, it's unfair for solo players because win rates, KDA or rank are not reflected in any way to show whether someone duod or did it solo. It treats all accomplishments as equal when they really aren't at all. There is no separation and there really should be. Duo games should be marked as such. It's just absurd to treat them the same as solo. This isn't getting into the unfair matches duos can create. I think duoing belong in flex queue because it distorts the ranked system. I've just seen a duo go unranked to D5 with 80% win rate without funneling. Their mains are ~D3 solo with just a tad above 50% win rate. This took them around 40 games and just highlights how completely broken duoing is when your motivation is to optimize climbing. They even said they couldn't get anywhere near that performance solo.

50 Comments

Quinzley7/2/2018, 4:50:38 PM27 votes

Just remove the ability to play as a duo in Solo Q.

Warlord Scrap7/2/2018, 4:41:43 PM20 votes

idk why they just dont make solo que solo que and leave all premades to flex

Super Sandmanne7/2/2018, 5:31:14 PM11 votes

This is why I'm glad the boards don't make decisions about the game lol

koochario7/2/2018, 5:15:19 PM8 votes

Actually saw tarzaned have to face 2 duos recently while having none on his team. It gets worse higher.

Witch of Babylon7/2/2018, 5:28:06 PM8 votes

I wouldn’t mind duo moving to Flex if Flex didn’t feel worthless

Janakin7/2/2018, 7:21:13 PM7 votes

Move duoQ into flexQ where it belongs. SoloQ should be a display of individual. No premading.

Dikast1s7/2/2018, 5:30:43 PM6 votes

Are you seriously complaining about duo queue players not being punished hard enough?You do realise that you have to be around 5 divisions over your skill level to win a lot of games when duoing right( at least at my mmr)? Duo players are matched with better teams and worse teammates why would that not be bad enough?

D4M2X07/2/2018, 5:13:12 PM5 votes

2 duoqs+1 smurf vs 5 soloq's with some1 whos autofilled, that shit can happen and its disgusting, duoQ alone is disgusting. this can all be fixed with prue soloQ where everyone is on even terms

Morgana Excel7/2/2018, 7:13:24 PM3 votes

Funny. When I solo queue I have something near a 80% win rate. When I duo queue it's closer to 40%. Even when I duo with players who quite good it seems to be more of a burden.

OniZetsu6667/2/2018, 5:23:27 PM3 votes

I agree to make solo truly solo. I generally do go duo in ranked with a bud (we are both low elo and right at the same level) because I HATE going into ranked alone because at my elo everyone feeds their ass off and it doesn't matter if you won lane you are screwed. He plays jungle to help the other lanes so we have more of a chance to get fed and I try to help the adc as much as I can as a support and even then we have a SLIGHTLY better chance at winning.

ZacharyTheSmurf7/2/2018, 4:48:39 PM3 votes

:/

Janakin7/2/2018, 6:38:12 PM2 votes

Just finally remove duoQ from "soloQ". Make duoQ available only in flexQ where it belongs.

Bisaknosp7/2/2018, 9:37:46 PM2 votes

would also solve the problem with boosting

Craktite7/3/2018, 4:28:07 PM2 votes

If people want play alone. Just remove Duo from soloqueue.

I AM VBAD7/3/2018, 8:57:27 AM1 votes

when a level 30 duos with a level 3 its even more insane. ive been put against diamonds on my solo level 23 because lvl 3 + level 30 diamond = lvl 23?

Unstoppable Monk7/3/2018, 2:01:12 PM1 votes

It's a crippling disadvantage for the team because the adjustment is too high the lower the ranking and an unfair advantage the higher the ranking because its too lowball.

1 vs 1 Me Noobs7/4/2018, 5:43:22 PM1 votes

Do you know what I get for duoing? 0 10 0 KDA teammates. All 3 of them are useless trash, who does nothing but feed and flame. And here you are crying for more penalty.