ITT we list Champions that Riot should rework and other Champs we'd like to see reworks for

Kingsgrave·May 13, 2015·1 votes·372 views

Champions that exhibit the following that will probably get reworked soonish by Riot: One dimensional gameplay (Warwick/Gangplank/Fiora/Shyvana) Uninteresting thematically (Morde/Aatrox/Evelynn) Not unique enough in terms of gameplay (Shen/Quinn/Taric) Toxic to deal with or fight against (Urgot/Teemo/Yorick/Vladimir/Poppy)

Reworks I'd like to see to make these champions more interesting:

13 Comments

ModWulf HelhammerMay 13, 20152 votes

How exactly is Quinn not unique?

KingsgraveMay 13, 20151 votes

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How exactly is Quinn not unique?

What does she do gameplay wise that nobody else does?

Random AA steroid on passive Q is AoE with lackluster CC W is passive steroid and vision E is just a bounce back, sorta unique R shifts forms to an even blander character

Falconer Ranger does barely anything Ranger-y

ModWulf HelhammerMay 13, 20151 votes

Well, for one thing, her harrier marks offer her extreme burst, while her blind allows her to be a master dualist, and then her ult allows her to be an assassin, all of this while she is still a ranged AD carry, that can be played everywhere from top to bot lane. When you say "a champion isn't unique", you also have to consider the whole kit and design of the champ. Yes, Teemo may have a blind, but it is a single target. Yes, Graves (as well as other assassins) have burst, but most have to use their ult in order to do so. Quinn needs her passive and 1 basic skill

KingsgraveMay 13, 20151 votes

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Well, for one thing, her harrier marks offer her extreme burst, while her blind allows her to be a master dualist, and then her ult allows her to be an assassin, all of this while she is still a ranged AD carry, that can be played everywhere from top to bot lane. When you say "a champion isn't unique", you also have to consider the whole kit and design of the champ. Yes, Teemo may have a blind, but it is a single target. Yes, Graves (as well as other assassins) have burst, but most have to use their ult in order to do so. Quinn needs her passive and 1 basic skill

You just listed 3 random attributes that are forced upon Quinn without describing anything that she does and how its unique, just "yeah burst and speed wow"

ModWulf HelhammerMay 13, 20152 votes

So I list the champs main points and what defines how you play the champ, and that is just "3 random attributes"? What did you want me to point out then, her lore?

101100111000May 13, 20151 votes

The fact that you called Teemo unhealthy, boring, and/or not themed with his kit. I mean really? Only scrubs who don't take the time to learn Teemo think he's not fun.

KingsgraveMay 13, 20151 votes

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The fact that you called Teemo unhealthy, boring, and/or not themed with his kit. I mean really? Only scrubs who don't take the time to learn Teemo think he's not fun.

You can find personal enjoyment in reading the dictionary, doesn't make it objectively fun.

Teemo punishes people for fighting him or even thinking of fighting him. No meaningful decisions are ever made as Teemo. You just camp a specific spot and do nothing and provide nothing.

Teemo is the "swift scout" how come he doesn't do anything scouty? How come he doesn't do anything exciting, flashy or interesting related to his military career? Why is he just a useless gerbil with mushrooms and only 1 real spell?

101100111000May 13, 20151 votes

Oh dear, imagine if I punished you as X champion for trying to fight me. Maybe you want to lane against a champion that can't attack you, or hurt you in any way for trying to kill them? I mean honestly, that's just redundant.

"Swift Scout". He has a passive and active ms buff, and he utilizes his mushrooms for objective control. They act as an extension of his own vision and provide a scouting purpose in areas Teemo himself is no longer present.

The complexity of a kit alone doesn't determine its depth or value.

KingsgraveMay 13, 20151 votes

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Oh dear, imagine if I punished you as X champion for trying to fight me. Maybe you want to lane against a champion that can't attack you, or hurt you in any way for trying to kill them? I mean honestly, that's just redundant.

"Swift Scout". He has a passive and active ms buff, and he utilizes his mushrooms for objective control. They act as an extension of his own vision and provide a scouting purpose in areas Teemo himself is no longer present.

The complexity of a kit alone doesn't determine its depth or value.

All Teemo does is run away, blind, shroom repeat. Its mindless, it has no depth or interaction for the enemy unlike literally every other Top laner.

The best course of action against Teemo is to do nothing. Thats bad design. Teemo is just as bad of a design as Yorick or Urgot.

101100111000May 13, 20151 votes

He's a ranged champion, unlike the majority of the top lane roster, and that's just an abuse of his AA range advantage, which literally any other ranged champion in top lane would do, like Vayne.

I implore you to find a ranged champion (i.e. mini Gnar, ) that doesn't just abuse their ranged kit and keep their distance. Your apparent level of understanding with regards of toxic kits or on-dimensional combat values is really skewed when the universal toxic ranged carry alone is Kalista and you don't even so much as pass a glance towards her.

KingsgraveMay 13, 20151 votes

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He's a ranged champion, unlike the majority of the top lane roster, and that's just an abuse of his AA range advantage, which literally any other ranged champion in top lane would do, like Vayne.

I implore you to find a ranged champion (i.e. mini Gnar, ) that doesn't just abuse their ranged kit and keep their distance. Your apparent level of understanding with regards of toxic kits or on-dimensional combat values is really skewed when the universal toxic ranged carry alone is Kalista and you don't even so much as pass a glance towards her.

Keeping distance is fine, thats what ranged do.

Heavily punishing any amount of mistake with no thought from the urgot/teemo is not fine. Both of their kits are designed to just be mindless "if you make a mistake you die miserably"

101100111000May 13, 20151 votes

You mean like Zed, Chogath, Kalista, Tryndamere, LeBlanc, etc.

You're making blanket complaints about specific champions that can be covered by a ton of other champions. Pick a new argument.