People trashtalking Riot for not playing the game LUL

Ahristocats··72 votes·7,492 views

and then you realise the entire balance team is mostly d1 players and then you realise that jinxylord can probably teach the game to any boards users here

let's make something clear right there if you want to call out the balance team for what they're doing then go ahead but if you want to shittalk the balance team for not playing the game then don't kid yourself, they do play the game and A HUNDRED TIMES better than you and they can probably teach you how to not lose against yasuo or darius

I hit master tier every single season, this season i hit challenger, and I still don't know how to fixe the issues that are in league, wanna know why? that's fcking right because it's not something you can do in 5 minutes

but if you yourself know how to then by all means, tell to scarra and imaqtpie how to fixe adcs or supports, or things that they both don't know how they would fixe like tahm kench being broken in high elo/competition due to his W

but the most funny part is when bruisers absolutly tickle tanks and do not do jackshit to them, the boards and every toplaners complain about bruisers being a joke, riot fixe that by adding conqueror and you STILL see people complaining about riot adding more damage to the game, are you fcking serious? you have A CLASS SUPPOSED TO DEAL DAMAGE NOT DOING DAMAGE YOU THINK THAT RIOT WON'T BUFF THEIR DAMAGE OUTPUT? you really need to be real once.

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CrazFight 42 votes

I think this meme really exploded a while back when ghostcrawler said "You don't have to play the game to know how to balance it"

Edit: The thread has gotten really toxic/cancerous, i know many other posts have been "locked" for less. but since its rubick's thread I guess it wont.

Ahristocats14 votes

i don't know if he said that, but even if he said that he probably didn't imply that riot doesn't play their game

everyone at riot plays the game, even the fucking lore team

Cenutrio 5 rabos10 votes

That's not true though, some analysts don't play the game, Idk about balance team, but I've played with and against many rioters from silver to diamond, stop biasing.

redniwediS9 votes

Analysts don't need experience with the game. They are there to analyze things with the powers of hindsight, not understand the game as it is and think about where it will be in the coming months.

AirKingNeo3 votes

can't exactly be a good analyst if you don't play the game and refuse to listen to play feedback.

redniwediS9 votes

To be fair, no one has said we have good analysts.

kargish37 votes

I haven't read the post yet but I see it's made by Rubick, so I assume it's gonna be some toxic post about the playerbase not knowing shit, and Rubick is refering to their rank in some form or context.

kargish5 votes

Close

Hibeki7 votes

no it was actually nail on the head.

Wouldnt be surprised if this guy actually just got boosted then uses the rank to justify his 'complaints'

Malicious Metal6 votes

If you ever played with him you'd see that he's actually one of the better players on this board.

Hibeki10 votes

No because I have absolutely no desire to play with self righteous arrogant people like this guy

Ahristocats4 votes

then don't talk shit about my skill because i'm way better than you at the game and i didn't get any boost

all malicious said is that if you play with me i would carry the **** out of you

Hibeki13 votes

You sound like a legitimate 12 year old

Ahristocats1 votes

yea

but at least i'm good at the game unlike some people and i don't complain about "forced 50% win rate" but rather i question myself and climb higher everytime

CrazFight 12 votes

Typical Rubick making the whole thread about his/her skill level being better than others , instead of its intended purpose

Sigh

Ahristocats1 votes

i didn't turn the thread into my skill level they did the moment they called me boosted, what the hell is wrong with you why aren't you calling them out instead?

CrazFight 8 votes

[{quoted}](name=Je suis Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a4TqaAej,comment-id=0010000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-25T22:46:28.176+0000)

i didn't turn the thread into my skill level they did the moment they called me boosted, what the hell is wrong with you why aren't you calling them out instead?

You are the thread creator. You can simply reply by instead of saying your "way better" than them, you can redirect the message back to your threads intended purpose.

GigglesO6 votes

But you forget he is Je Suis Rubick. The game is about him.

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

soopcan2 votes

I still remember that post he made about support item changes and he got absolutely toasted by Meddler LUL

NemeBro2 votes

{quoted}

You sound like a legitimate 12 year old

He's right though. He is considerably better than you, and this bothers you for some reason.

Talk shit get hit, you started talking shit first.

HarrisonOwns3 votes

It's always that.

Risk of Fate19 votes

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Ahristocats7 votes

[{quoted}](name=Fate Fire,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a4TqaAej,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-03-25T18:16:02.029+0000)

Ironic since your posts are 80% complaining about the balance / champions being weak / lee sin buffs. But I'm not here to criticize as you could probably play the game in circles around me.

Yea i do complain, i'm here to point out issues, where did i say i do not complain? but i:

-do not shittalk the balance team, i do not insult any rioters even if i hate a few of them that i won't list -do not write threads about how to fixe the game because I DO NOT KNOW how to do it

but if i see bruisers dealing no damage to tanks i will complain, but i won't know which change to do to fixe that issue

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Daunt3 votes

There's a difference between giving opinions and INSISTING that a champion or whatever gets nerfed because a certain player is just plain bad or doesn't understand a certain aspect of the game which is what mostly happens on the Boards. This way even the better players lose interest in trying to resolve the issue because the post is just pointless circle jerk.

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Daunt4 votes

We're talking as if Boards actually looks for advice. All that people do is bitch about whatever they lost to in their previous game which is what gives a nasty vibe to the comments that people leave. I yet have to see someone actually say something like "you're just trash" to a well thought out post asking for help and opinions.

RiotGhostcrawler13 votes

I don't remember the context of the original quote, but the point I was trying to make was that the skill to be a good at a game and the skill to be able to balance the same game are different skills. I think some people assume that if you're good at a game, you must have a ton of knowledge about the game (which is probably true), and therefore a ton of insight into the game (which might be true), and therefore know how to solve problems and put things in a good direction (which might not be true).

But if you are working on a game, I would definitely advocate that you play it. A lot. Playing it a lot isn't sufficient to balance it - you need a lot of information from other sources too. But not playing the game will likely leave you really out of touch.

Ahristocats4 votes

{quoted}

and therefore know how to solve problems and put things in a good direction (which might not be true).

I can 100% confirm that

I myself do not know how to fixe the game, when I say fixe the game i mean make it enjoyable for 100% of the community it would be easy to just gut ADCS and make them unplayable, but it's not the goal of balance

Being good at the game is not enough, people like to quote DOPA but they don't tell you that he said ryze was garbage tier after rework, and that zoe was garbage on release.

The only thing being high elo changes is that you play a different meta than in low elo, in high elo the most broken midlaner is corki, in low elo the most broken midlaner is probably zed or yasuo

Jmman2 votes

Right, with that being said I have to ask a question.

If mains that have play the same champs or lanes for 8 years and have gather tons of first hand experience will come and post on the boards just to get down voted and mocked. Its like a journeyman laughing at a master trade crafter. Sure, you might have a different way to approach the issues. But it still makes the point that how they want the champ buff or they area it would impact is them expressing FREE good information. Why don't you ever listen?

So here is someone that played EQ at the start. Vumelin the necro (did complete all epic weapons and yea I saw there with the expension with a lot of XX's in all the names). Then in WoW (our eq guild moved because of the awesome "Operation Pansy Stomp" happened. Not with heavens of fire but was influential. Busta my sham was the first to get Hammer of Rag on the server (sure pissed a lot of people off but man pvp was fun) Also had a lock (vumelin) / Pal (jmman) after a few expansion came out. In Top ranked TN team for Halo invite to NY nationals, etc etc. Now, I would be more than happy to help you verify any of this.

My point of this is I understand balancing, money, and fun. As you can see I have had TOTAL changes in characters and how they work. I have seen Multiple different styles and way games system interact. They are all the same just a little different. Sure I might not express or get the information across the way I have it in my mind all the time. But Seeing all the down votes and post by red on things I feel I know 100% more than them on is heart breaking. Sure I can't tell you about other champs really because I don't have 8 years in them as I do fiddle. But how many fiddle questions have I been asked.... ZERO. As an 8 year main why is my input or how I think about me have less barren than someone that has ZERO games on him and post a funny meme getting a lot of up votes. (which I'm sure can be altered)

Plus number don't tell you happiness or how you feel playing a champ.

When a season 1 main post about his champ I don't tend to response because I now that person has a pretty good idea he know what he is talking about. Sure the way to fix it might not be the best....BUT the area that needs fixing is usually right on. I'm use an example. See you nerf fiddle damage to minion. (not getting into balance of it) But then look what your going to do how. Everyone lost -5ad, nerf wave clear for mages. Now fiddle already had a bad time farming. This also cares over to the jungle. its just the way his spells work. Instead of seeing how the wave clear changes and lose of ad works out you nerf him. So once you nerf wave clear again this put a double nerf on a champ that already had a hard time with wave clear. Does jungle wave clear..... sure late game. The problem is you don't understand fiddle. See he has high mana cost. He isn't like other mages that spam for wave clear. If you spam you need to only have 1 or 2 levels with does no real damage. But if you do level it you have only have .75sec fear and a drain that only heal or do damage for shit. This isn't a give him the minion damage back. its I'm saying this is going to be a future problem with the upcoming wave clear changes (which I think needs to happen).

In summation, If you want to nerf someone because of a high win rate and low play rate then nerf everyone with high win rates across the board. If you want to nerf wave clear mid. nerf it across the board not the struggling one and say Soon* on the rest. If you say you want diversity don't nerf low play rate champs in other positions. These are my issues. Your are picking and choosing instead of a systemic process. This leads people to saying Balance team doesn't know what they are doing. And they are correct. But without reason involved it becomes unreasonable. My issues aren't fiddle was nerfed. Its your reasoning behind it but leaving champs with high play rates and high win rates and saying they are just "fun" champs is honestly Bullshit. Sure, I like flying a F-35 compared to a F-105D in a dog fight because its more "FUN" too. Maybe you should have added more "fun" to the older kits or added less "fun" to the newer kits. Fun = true damage, mobility, burst, safe farming, spelling doing multiple things.

Think about what you said then think about all the time I've been down vote from red and people that don't have one single game on fiddle. Because I look people up to see. Now i'm just waiting for the "hive" mind to tell me how they know more than me on a champ they have never played.

TempName7481412 votes

[{quoted}](name=Je suis Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a4TqaAej,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-25T17:41:52.209+0000)

I hit master tier every single season

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Jinzo Torrance2 votes

Early season probably.

TempName748143 votes

i guarantee it's impossible to drop to gold after getting master unless you're boosted or inting every game and somehow not getting banned

rework trundle8 votes

and you STILL see people complaining about riot adding more damage to the game, are you fcking serious? you have A CLASS SUPPOSED TO DEAL DAMAGE NOT DOING DAMAGE YOU THINK THAT RIOT WON'T BUFF THEIR DAMAGE OUTPUT?

I think the real problem is their philosophy of making everyone equally broken. Bruisers should shit on tanks, bruisers don't -> powercreep bruisers instead of nerfing tanks. I'm not saying they aren't making bad decisions, they answered the relic adc meta quickly, made liandry a tank buster item instead of a burst squishies item, etc. But, in the long run, powercreeping everyone to ~ the same level is only hurting the game.

redniwediS6 votes

Part of this problem is that people still use the word "bruiser". The bruiser champions of old went their separate ways, and are now the classes Juggernaut, Diver, and Skirmisher. Each of these three classes has different capabilities, and not all should be strong against tanks.

Some champions that were or would have been bruisers back in the day do still destroy modern tanks with little to no issues.

Automated Riven2 votes

Actually alL three of those classes should be good against tanks. Tanks shouldn't not 1v1 anyone in the game that isn't a marksmen or an assassin.

redniwediS3 votes

You're asking for tanks to only be viable as supports or junglers then, and if the parts that make them able to lane are nerfed they will drop out of jungle popularity just like last time. Top lane tanks are a thing, and have been a thing since the fratmogs meta ended.

Each class has members that are good against tanks, but some classes have more members like that than others. If you want to bust tanks don't pick a champion that isn't good against them, there are other options within those classes for you.

Daunt1 votes

If people pick tanks top shouldn't they have a terrible laning experience if they scale later on? At least i think that's how it used to be.

redniwediS3 votes

We tried that. The tanks fell behind to the point where they couldn't get the defensive items needed to survive the mid and early late game. Early game champions destroyed them, so no one played tanks top. A similar thing happened in the jungle.

I'm not saying we shouldn't try to make this happen, I'm only saying this is the price we have to pay for it.

Ralanr2 votes

Nail. Head.

CrazFight 2 votes

Head. Nail.

Your move.

Ralanr2 votes

Train spike. Sledgehammer.

CrazFight 2 votes

You have won this battle....

Ralanr2 votes

And soon, the war.

Dysnomia5 votes

They made it. Shouldn't it be obvious that they are better at it than others?

redniwediS13 votes

It should be obvious that consuming laundry detergent is a bad idea too. Some people are just not smart.

Elohaven4 votes

You're way too toxic on the boards recently. You have a good point but the way you're expressing it is really poor.

BestPudgeNA3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Je suis Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a4TqaAej,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-25T17:41:52.209+0000)

and then you realise the entire balance team is mostly d1 players and then you realise that jinxylord can probably teach the game to any boards users here

I bet you can't find a single OP.GG of a single riot balance team member that is diamond 1.

The most frequent posting Riot member of the balance team is currently plat 3 hasn't played in weeks and has 46% win rate

GigglesO3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Je suis Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a4TqaAej,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-25T17:41:52.209+0000)

but the most funny part is when bruisers absolutly tickle tanks and do not do jackshit to them you have A CLASS SUPPOSED TO DEAL DAMAGE NOT DOING DAMAGE

The funny part is how ignorant that you are to the fact that tanks are supposed to get tickled by damage. That is how tanks are supposed to function.

Its not about other classes not dealing tanks damage, because they aren't supposed to deal damage to tanks. The issue is that tanks were dealing too much damage.

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