We might need to be terrified of Yorick

Smitemuffin·Nov 10, 2015·1 votes·1,040 views

Okay, with me for a minute here. Two items in particular make me suspect Yorick could very well end up a monster:

this new item is awesome. The sustain is just nuts. But note that Yorick's W (the green slowing AoE ghoul) as an AP ratio of 100%

it's passive restores mana on crit, gives crit chance. Not so bad, right? Wrong. Wrong wrong WRONG. Why? Well...

Yorick's Q is a little...unique. It's an attack reset with a physical damage on-hit effect and movement speed buff. However it works a bit backwards. It's 30-150 + 20% AD does not apply lifesteal. But what it does do is multiply into critical hits.

So yeah. If you see this guy ?

Prepare your anus.

19 Comments

JbelsNov 10, 20151 votes

Yorick doesn't really have many mana problems once he gets tear stacked, and I don't really see a need to go for Gunblade when the only time his sustain will matter is the laning phase, when he's harrassing people out of lane and outsustaining them

SmitemuffinNov 10, 20151 votes

His passive % damage reduction gives him alot of time to sustain back on the frontline. With the availability of CDR in new items and the current buffs to HP and MR items, he looks like he could be another ball-crushingly strong Juggernaut

JbelsNov 10, 20151 votes

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His passive % damage reduction gives him alot of time to sustain back on the frontline. With the availability of CDR in new items and the current buffs to HP and MR items, he looks like he could be another ball-crushingly strong Juggernaut

In a meta where AOE and Burst exist in huge portions throughout the game, Yorick won't be getting much out of his sustain when he only gets one short little burst of it every few seconds, and his little famine ghost dies to the AOE so quickly

ZileanUltJesusOPNov 10, 20151 votes

You pick Yorick to shit all over somebody in lane and then be a caster minion for late game.

junglerboy16Nov 10, 20151 votes

Except with the number of super potent ADCs running around, Yorick is going to have a field day late game as a high damage/durability ult bot.

ZileanUltJesusOPNov 10, 20152 votes

Except we had a huge ADC meta in season 3 and still no one picked yorick. Nobody picks a champion so they can Revive their ADC when you can pick a champion that can protect them from dying or obliterate the other ADC.

Yorick has absolutely nothing on top laners right now such as Chogath Darius DrMundo Fiora Fizz Gangplank Garen Gnar Hecarim Irelia LeeSin Maokai Nautilus Olaf Renekton Rengar Riven Rumble Tryndamere MonkeyKing XinZhao

There is no reason to pick yorick

JbelsNov 10, 20151 votes

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Except we had a huge ADC meta in season 3 and still no one picked yorick. Nobody picks a champion so they can Revive their ADC when you can pick a champion that can protect them from dying or obliterate the other ADC.

Yorick has absolutely nothing on top laners right now such as

There is no reason to pick yorick

I love how your name is ZileanUltJesusOP and you didn't even mention that Zilean's ult is better than Yorick's XD

Dominick DestineNov 10, 20151 votes

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Except we had a huge ADC meta in season 3 and still no one picked yorick. Nobody picks a champion so they can Revive their ADC when you can pick a champion that can protect them from dying or obliterate the other ADC.

Yorick has absolutely nothing on top laners right now such as

There is no reason to pick yorick

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NemeBroNov 10, 20151 votes

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You pick Yorick to shit all over somebody in lane and then be a caster minion for late game.

I suppose the key difference between Yorick and a caster is that Yorick can easily 1v1 most champions in the game, takes turrets faster than most heavy bruisers, and is basically as hard to kill as a Mundo late game, while still having one of the strongest laning phases top.

ZileanUltJesusOPNov 10, 20151 votes

After 20 min he cannot 1 v 1 most champs.

He cannot take turrets fast at all if he is building "as tanky as mundo"

His damage is embarrassing late game. Similar to renekton. He just stands there and soaks damage and his Ult is done better by the champ that is in my name. He has 0 hard cc for a top laner which is a gigantic downfall and he has 0 gap closers as well. At least the juggernauts get insane damage to go with their no mobility. Yorick has literally nothing and will never be able to reach a carry and can't peel for his either. He is worthless except for when he shits on your top laner for the first 15 min of the game

NemeBroNov 10, 20151 votes

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After 20 min he cannot 1 v 1 most champs.

He cannot take turrets fast at all if he is building "as tanky as mundo"

His damage is embarrassing late game. Similar to renekton. He just stands there and soaks damage and his Ult is done better by the champ that is in my name. He has 0 hard cc for a top laner which is a gigantic downfall and he has 0 gap closers as well. At least the juggernauts get insane damage to go with their no mobility. Yorick has literally nothing and will never be able to reach a carry and can't peel for his either. He is worthless except for when he shits on your top laner for the first 15 min of the game

He can easily 1v1 most champions late game. He is too durable to burst down, and his still-godlike health sustain means that sustained-damage champions have trouble with him as well. His ultimate also works as a great dueling steroid. He can easily duel a lot of the top laners you listed in fact. I myself have 1v2'd a Poppy and a Sion as Yorick, only dying when Zed bailed Sion out after I killed Poppy (I will grant you that I was more fed than them though).

The funny thing about using quotations is that you should probably actually quote what someone actually said. Yorick doesn't build as tanky as Mundo, but due to his constant sustain he is very hard to kill, especially alone (though I was probably exaggerating by comparing him to Mundo).

I wasn't aware that Zilean could almost give you a second source of your ranged DPS with his ult (something you haven't even acknowledged). Only he can't. Yorick's ult is far more versatile than Zilean's, which doesn't last as long and doesn't create a clone which deals damage during its duration (as long as his target doesn't die). Zilean trades off this greater versatility for the ability to truly keep an ally from dying.

Oh, and Yorick does way more sustained damage than Renekton late game, due to his low cooldown spammable abilities. He doesn't need to reach a carry. He hangs out with his and ults them, to contribute even more ranged DPS, along with his own.

ZileanUltJesusOPNov 10, 20151 votes

I will gladly take any of the the champs i listed above and play against you. I can promise you after 15 min, it would be a roflstomp. Yorick is absolute trash and there is a reason nobody plays him

Meep ManNov 10, 20151 votes

I built Essense Reaver on him already so, whatever.

SaltyKrackaNov 10, 20151 votes

I guess if he starts showing up then they'll nerf him. He needs a rework anyways.

SasogwaNov 10, 20151 votes

Nice ghouls you got there... Let the stacking begin Nasus

Big LincolnNov 10, 20151 votes

so... total build?

item 3146 item 3078 item 3508 item 3042 item 3047 item 3065

seems way too squishy to function as a juggernaut, not to mention expensive. i don't know if you'd need reaver or gunblade in favor of a health/armor item, muramana/trinity has generally been all the damage you really need for him

EndlessSorcererNov 10, 20151 votes

I'm personally considering something along the lines of:

Ninja Tabi or Mercury Treads
Tear of the Goddess -> Manamune
Death's Dance
Frozen Heart or Iceborn Gauntlet
Spirit Visage
Sterak's Gage or Black Cleaver

Deadman's Plate, Randuin's Omen, and Trinity Force are all possible options too.

The items purchased and the order in which they are purchased will of course change each game, but it seems like it would be a decent enough build.

Reasonably durable, good sustain, and good damage.

EndlessSorcererNov 10, 20151 votes

I would say that Death's Dance would be better for sustain than Hextech Gunblade. While you wouldn't get extra healing from your W or E, it would (or should) heal you for the damage dealt by your Ghouls' basic attacks and your Q. In addition, it turns a percentage of the damage you take into a DoT over the next few seconds, which you may be able to sustain through to avoid death.

Iceborn Gauntlet received a decent buff for him as well since it lost the AP and gained CDR, armor, and slow field size.

Spirit Visage was buffed by a decent amount (+100HP, +10MR).

He has a lot of new itemization options now. You just have to be careful not to overcap CDR.

MazyrNov 10, 20151 votes

Heh, I've been mulling over this for the last few days myself, ever since I saw the item changes coming for s6. My problem is, I just can't find where to shoe-horn these items into a build unless I'm so far ahead that it wouldn't really matter what I built... allow me to explain.

Yorick has to build Tear, no questions asked, first item. Additionally, Riot has forgotten Yorick Mori to such an extent that he is the only champ that would go into lane with mana pots not getting a mana pool or regen buff. Depending on how livable this situation will be with the new masteries or perhaps a faerie charm start, I might seriously consider running mana regen blues on Yorick just to get close to where he is now. The new gunblade strikes me as something you want to rush in lane so you get the most out of it in laning phase, so after tear would be the place to put it (as an aside, I think the biggest abuser of the new gunblade is going to be Heimerdinger... he could rush it first item to become an unmovable, ungankable, unkillable object), but then you have to consider is gunblade a good replacement for trinity force as Yorick's damage item? After laning phase I'd say trinity is far superior, and if you get all three then that only leaves you two slots for defense after boots.

As for Essence Reaver, I did not realize the interaction it would have with Yorick's Q; if that is indeed the case, perhaps it could work as a pseudo-replacement for tear/manamune and is even more appealing with the increase to Trinity Force crit, giving you a way to build CDR without building defense, but I fear that even with these changes Yorick is going to fall into an unusable grey area of, "Can't build enough damage to be truly threatening while being tanky enough to survive"... of course, I won't say anything for certain without extensive testing come tomorrow.

Just my two cents.