Nobody Denies Graves Is Too Strong, But...

Smitemuffin·May 10, 2016·1 votes·858 views

I feel like it would be a shame to nerf him. I hope to see the rest of the jungle roster, especially the jungle-only champs like Zac and Sej buffed up to his level rather than just pounding him down

8 Comments

OwOPangoMay 10, 20161 votes

If everyone is strong, no one is :)

Also, the meta favors certain styles of champions compared to others, there will be a point in the future where Zac and Sej are meta when graves is not

HamerDrunkMay 10, 20161 votes

graves was supposed to be an adc remember so he's rework was a bit of a fail but i think he's fine in the jungle just the tanky adc burst thingy isn't viable

BaunjoMay 10, 20161 votes

Graves was not meant to be an ADC... Look at what they did with his E, they clearly did not mean that to be an ADC ability. And burst? Lots and lots of the ADC's have burst

HamerDrunkMay 11, 20161 votes

thats my whole point about the graves rework he was in the adc rework so meant to be adc still they made him like a tanky assasin i'm not saying hes op or somthing just saying they mist the ball on what they wanted to do

ZeeWolfZMay 10, 20161 votes

Nerf him back to adc only state. Fuck that champion's rework.

HyperiönMay 11, 20161 votes

Zac and Sej are great picks, I do not know what you are talking about. They are both super tanky, High DPS, so what if they have a somewhat slow and weak early game. Their mid to late game is beautiful.

SmitemuffinMay 11, 20161 votes

Hey, if you want your opponent to gank twice as often while doubling your farm, then try to impact the game a whole item or two down, be my guest. Whatever works for ya.

HyperiönMay 11, 20161 votes

Zac, has great clear. Zac, has great ganks, Zac, has immense damage with Runic Echoes, I mean, not to mention his passive, easy turret dives. His ult, knocks everyone up, and can engage from super far away. So what he won't have as much farm as say Lee, or Kha'zix, he easily makes up for that as soon as he gets that jungle item. And no jungler should be double your farm first 10-15 minutes, unless you waste a lot of time,