How come Sivir's spellshield and Jax E block Illaoi W?

Pyrithegethon·May 15, 2016·4 votes·1,708 views

Weird how they can both negate Illaoi W

15 Comments

masterdragon481May 15, 20162 votes

This, if true, is actually a REALLY good question.

If its a spell, sivir spell shield should block it.

If its an amplified auto attack, Jax should dodge it.

But it shouldn't be both. Nothing is both in the game.

CIickTheLanternMay 15, 20161 votes

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This, if true, is actually a REALLY good question.

If its a spell, sivir spell shield should block it.

If its an amplified auto attack, Jax should dodge it.

But it shouldn't be both. Nothing is both in the game.

What about Nasus Q? Is it blocked/dodged?

masterdragon481May 15, 20161 votes

I would have to test, but I'm 90% sure that it is dodged but not blocked. Nasus Q (like Illaoi W) as a buff on next auto attack. Spell shields don't stop auto attacks. Dodges do.

windwolf777May 15, 20161 votes

From what I remember for Jax at least, it blocks the normal AA damage, but the additional Q damage is taken

masterdragon481May 15, 20161 votes

A few patches ago (maybe even juggernaut update) this was changed so that jax could block the entirety of nasus Q. Same with pantheon shield, it now blocks the whole thing. Not that the change makes jax any good vs a nasus, but still.

windwolf777May 17, 20161 votes

Really? Well then, thank you for the correction. Does that go for other enhanced AA skills? I figure on hit effects don't apply because...well....they don't hit

masterdragon481May 17, 20161 votes

It should be the case that the entire damage is blocked. But I would have to actually test to know for sure.

Another example is renekton's W is not completely ignored if dodge is in effect (so no damage or stun).

windwolf777May 17, 20161 votes

Interesting. Thank you very much for the info :)

MunchCrunchLunchMay 15, 20162 votes

spellshields block empowered auto attacks even if they aren't spells. which is bullshit. also jax E dodges auto attacks including empowered ones.

go ahead and try ezreal q and gp q on sivir spellshield. it will block it.

tho I do believe the aa damage will still apply.

Zone of EndlessMay 15, 20161 votes

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spellshields block empowered auto attacks even if they aren't spells. which is bullshit. also jax E dodges auto attacks including empowered ones.

go ahead and try ezreal q and gp q on sivir spellshield. it will block it.

tho I do believe the aa damage will still apply.

Ezreal ~~and GP's~~ Q are spell with on hit effect. It's different than an empowered AA.

masterdragon481May 15, 20161 votes

Well, ezreal q is a spell with on hit effects. GP q is a ranged auto attack that counts as melee (procs tiamat, can crit).

Zone of EndlessMay 15, 20161 votes

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Well, ezreal q is a spell with on hit effects. GP q is a ranged auto attack that counts as melee (procs tiamat, can crit).

Ah okay. I don't play GP but I always assumed his Q was spell with on hit effect

masterdragon481May 15, 20161 votes

I'm actually not sure about gp's q interaction with spell shields. I know it is dodged by Jax.

The problem, and why I actually like the OP's question which is getting downvoted for some reason, is that some of the rules about what abilities are what aren't very clear. Some clarity (and consistency) would be pretty awesome.

Zone of EndlessMay 15, 20161 votes

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I'm actually not sure about gp's q interaction with spell shields. I know it is dodged by Jax.

The problem, and why I actually like the OP's question which is getting downvoted for some reason, is that some of the rules about what abilities are what aren't very clear. Some clarity (and consistency) would be pretty awesome.

Yeah. Consistency is not something Riot is good at.

Even Hilary Clinton is more consistent than Riot.