Don't nerf Kog'maw, nerf Guinsoo's

Quepha·Feb 16, 2016·5 votes·1,908 views

Kog'maw's power is completely warped by Guinsoo's and it's creating massive dependencies on other champ kits too. It makes sense for the item to be good on Kog'maw since he benefits so much from both AD and AP, but the item by itself is so powerful that champions like Master Yi and Irelia depend on it despite having almost no interest in the AP side of the item and this is going to result in it eating a nerf at some point. Nerfing Kog'maw before Guinsoo's is just going to set up another Sejuani situation.

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Twitch ChatFeb 16, 20161 votes

jesus christ kog is the fucking destroyer of worlds on this patch and there's still people who actually think he doesn't need nerfs

KrugLyfeFeb 16, 20161 votes

Actually i won a game against a kogmaw who was fed about 10 kills before 15 minutes but all it took was some cc.....

QuephaFeb 16, 20161 votes

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jesus christ kog is the fucking destroyer of worlds on this patch and there's still people who actually think he doesn't need nerfs

Nerfing Guinsoo's would nerf Kog'maw, if you think it wouldn't then you're out of the loop.

Twitch ChatFeb 16, 20161 votes

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Nerfing Guinsoo's would nerf Kog'maw, if you think it wouldn't then you're out of the loop.

Even if you banish guinsoos to hell current Kog will come back with a wits or Bork rush build and just keep shitting on everyone. You can ruin every on hit item in the game for everyone or you can nerf Kog your choice.

QuephaFeb 16, 20161 votes

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Even if you banish guinsoos to hell current Kog will come back with a wits or Bork rush build and just keep shitting on everyone. You can ruin every on hit item in the game for everyone or you can nerf Kog your choice.

Bork and Wit's End are joke items once again. On-hit items should synergize since they all increase auto damage and frequency, but right now Guinsoo's (and devourer if you're jungle) are so powerful that nothing else is needed and there's no situational decision-making involved.

Guinsoo's is clearly going to need a nerf soon. I just want Riot to make sure that if Kog'maw needs a nerf, that he'll need it even after Guinsoo's is fixed so it doesn't single-handedly take champions from barely viable to god-tier.