Why is everyone being so dramatic with the AP item changes?

CatSith··7 votes·1,321 views

There was nerfs , buffs, item changes, and price changes. All people focus on is the minor item nerfs and price raise, Other items were buffed too.

The only role that will suffering with preseason changes by the ADC itemization are the ad assassins.

Nerf/Price increased

Enchantment: Runeglaive Total Cost increased Recipe now [Jungle Item + Amp. Tome + Sheen + 140g] AP reduced to 40 from 50 Mana increased to 250 from 200

Fiendish Codex AP lowered to 25 from 30 Total cost lowered to 800 from 825

Liandry's Torment Total gold cost increased to 3200 from 3000

Haunting Guise Total cost increased to 1600 from 1500

Morellonomicon Total cost increased to 2550 from 2300

Rylai's Crystal Scepter Total cost increased to 3200 from 3000

Void Staff Total cost increased to 2650 from 2500

Zhonya's Hourglass Cost increased to 3200 from 3000 AP reduced to 80 from 100 Armor reduced to 45 from 50

Archangel's Staff Total cost increased to 3100 from 3000

Buffs/Price lowered

Faerie Charm Cost lowered to 125 from 180g

Lich Bane Total cost increased to 3200 Recipe now Blasting Wand + Sheen + Aether Wisp Now grants 10% CDR Movement speed increased to 7%

Mejai's Soulstealer Now builds out of The Dark Seal + 1000g Now gives 200 mana Stacking Mechanics reworked New Unique Passive - Dread: Grants 5 Ability Power per Glory. Grants 10% movement speed if you have at least 15 Glory. New Unique Passive - Do or Die: Grants 4 Glory per champion kill or 1 Glory for an assist, up to 30 Glory total. Lose 8 stacks of Glory upon dying.

Nashor's Tooth Attack speed increased to 50% from 40%

Rod of Ages Total cost increased to 3000 from 2700 AP increased to 80 from 60

(Yes, I consider the sheen change a buff) Sheen Cost reduced to 1050 from 1250 No longer grants 25 AP Mana increasead to 250 from 200 Now grants 10% CDR

Will of the Ancients Total cost lowered to 2300 from 2500

Elixir of Sorcery Cost increased to 500 from 400 AP increased to 50 from 40

Doran's Ring Mana regen changed to 50% of base from flat 3 per 5 seconds.

Abyssal Scepter Total cost lowered to 2370 down from 2450

Hybrid Apc buffs

Guinsoo's Rageblade 2500 gold Build Path: Blasting Wand + Pickaxe + 775 gold +30 Attack Damage +40 Ability Power UNIQUE Passive: Basic attacks grant +8% Attack Speed, +3 Attack Damage, and +4 Ability Power for 5 seconds (stacks up to 8 times, melee attacks grant 2 stacks). While you have 8 stacks, gain Guinsoo's Rage. Guinsoo's Rage: Basic attacks deal bonus magic damage on hit equal to 20 + 15% of bonus Attack Damage and 7.5% of Ability Power to the target and nearby enemy units.

Hextech Gunblade 10% lifesteal and 20% spell vamp removed New Unique Passive - now heals for 15% of the damage dealt, 33% effective for aoe. RELOAD removed, no longer cools the item active down by 3 seconds part hit & single target.

21 Comments

Fizz is not Fish6 votes

Are you kidding me ? Yes, every mana AP can build Rod of Ages if they want.

Nothing about Mejai's Soulstealer.

But many AP champs will never build

+Lich Bane(Sheen) +Nashor's Tooth +Will of the Ancients +Guinsoo's Rageblade +Hextech Gunblade.

They need item 3165 item 3157 item 3135 item 3089, which are nerfed.

Erockandroll2 votes

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Are you kidding me ? Yes, every mana AP can build Rod of Ages if they want.

Nothing about Mejai's Soulstealer.

But many AP champs will never build

+Lich Bane(Sheen) +Nashor's Tooth +Will of the Ancients +Guinsoo's Rageblade +Hextech Gunblade.

They need item 3165 item 3157 item 3135 item 3089, which are nerfed.

And that's what riot is trying to change, which started with the last major update to the AP itemization. These exact items "got nerfed" the last time. (and yet didn't really affect their build) while buffing the alternatives.

And riot won't be satisfied until their really isn't a mandatory item for a mage. Well certain mages do benefit from lich bane more than other. But their wouldn't be a Generic mandatory item.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Well, shit. Then all those items are going to give 50 AP and cost 5000 gold. And people will still buy them.

THAT is how mandatory they are.

Emperor Cynric3 votes

Because basically long story short, we have to learn League of Legends all over again just like season 5, way too many changes and unnecessary ones at that.

CatSith2 votes

It happens every season lol.

Emperor Cynric1 votes

It really shouldn't There needs to be more than just summoners rift in League of Legends, because that's where all of riots focus goes.

DrNova3 votes

Read your own post. You are literally supporting everyone's complaint

CatSith2 votes

Learn to read. I stated everyone is only talking about the nerf/increase in prices and none of the buffs/decrease in prices.

CatSith2 votes

Updated with the changes in the PBE, let me know if i missed any.

Bleediss2 votes

g&b is known to bitch about literally anything that gets changed and anything balanced

you should expect nothing from this place, only shit players whining as expected

Mirkwoodia1 votes

Thats actually surprising that RoA is getting buffed and Rylais is nerfed, when the former is actually more viable than the latter

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

That may not remain true, though. New meta and all. Gotta remember that Riot is playtesting this stuff, and they might have caught things that we'll never see (because they caught them being crazy op).

What I'm saying is, we don't want another Black Cleaver situation.

ProfDrDeath1 votes

And even AD assassins profit from certain changes.

  • Death's Dance (AD, CdR, sustain)
  • Youmuu's improved (more AD, less Crit)
  • Maw improved
  • Warrior improved if you're a jungler
  • Zhonya's nerfed
  • Black Cleaver more AD

Yes, they are hurt by certain changes, too - removal of Brutalizer, no longer access to Last Whisper to obliterate squishies and tanks alike, nerfed Tiamat...but it is not that they do not gain things in return.

Widder881 votes

Runeglaive and Zhonyas are nerfed into the ground. Unbuyable. Other AP items are just more expensive than before. AD items are buffed at the same time. AP champions will almost disappear.

CatSith1 votes

Um no. Zhonyas will always be a powerful item because of the active. Runeglaive will be fine.

AP champions won't disappear with these changes.

Widder881 votes

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Um no. Zhonyas will always be a powerful item because of the active. Runeglaive will be fine.

Zhonyas will cost more but will have less AP and Armor. The active is useless if the purchase means that you are too weak to kill someone.

Runeglaive will cost 425 more, but will have 10 AP less, down to 40 AP. I will just buy Lich bane instead, which is buffed by 10% CDR.

I play Evelynn. It will be

  • Warrior, Deathcap, Lich bane or
  • Nashors Tooth, Lich bane, Deathcap without jungle item or
  • Warrior into more AD (unlikely)

But never ever Runeglaive.

AP champions won't disappear with these changes.

Not entirely.

I will play AP MF. E range is increased to 1000 from 800. Ult AP ratio buffed to 320%. This will be fun.

CatSith1 votes

People dont buy zhonyas because of pure item stat, they buy it because of the immunity active. The nerf to zhonyas wont affect its popularity.

Widder881 votes

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People dont buy zhonyas because of pure item stat, they buy it because of the immunity active. The nerf to zhonyas wont affect its popularity.

If someone buys it for only 1 reason, he is stupid. I did that at Level 10 maybe.

It will be very weak as an early item. Maybe it doesn't hurt too much as 6th item, because of fifth other items can provide damage, but the populaity will go down.

Once Rylais and Liandries had only 80 AP/50 AP, they were also not popular. Only few champions bought it with special synergy. The same will happen to Zhonyas.

CoolKnightST1 votes

item 3136 cost increased again. What -__- , What's wrong with you riot...

Faded Lich1 votes

Why are they being so dramatic? Because I'd wager roughly 70% (or at least around that ball park) on these boards main mages. I'm accounting for lurkers as well.

Danyul Targaryen1 votes

Op is retarded

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