Nerf Quinn some more

FalconPawwwwnch·Mar 27, 2016·13 votes·1,296 views

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ModWulf HelhammerMar 27, 20165 votes

Get better at the game

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20162 votes

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ModWulf HelhammerMar 28, 20164 votes

First, you don't know my MMR.

Second, what does that have to do with anything?

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20163 votes

Maybe it shows in the rank of the people you play against? All low Silver or Bronze...which means you are horrible at the game and shouldnt dare to tell anyone to get better at the game, especially not guys who are rocking diamond badges.

SithesisLordMar 28, 20164 votes

Hate to break it to you, but i´ve seen Diamonds play like Bronze and Bronze play like Diamonds, so yeah. Rank doesn´t mean much. And yes he is allowed and should absolutely dare to tell people to get better at the game. Because in case the memo was not received, rank shaming is literally cheesing your way out of an argument.

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20161 votes

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SithesisLordMar 28, 20164 votes

Wow, again with the rank shaming. You´re literally not worth having a decent discussion with. Move along now, sweet cheeks.

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20162 votes

Of course I am not gonna discuss the game balance with someone who plays the game at a terrible level. You are talking about Bronzes playing at a Diamond level when you have probably never ever seen anyone play at a gold level lmao.

SithesisLordMar 28, 20163 votes

I am just going to assume lack of higher brain function and close this comment chain here and now.

Aarn13Mar 27, 20164 votes

Is there a particular reason, or do you just not like the fact that you actually have to try top lane now?

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20163 votes

Wish the Quinn players would have to "try" top lane too instead of just getting a free lane by picking that champ.

Aarn13Mar 28, 20164 votes

You're right I don't try top lane at all, because it seems people don't want to accept the fact that she goes top lane and has counters, so they run their standard Nasus, Garen, Riven, Darius and get gobsmacked. Right now, its nice when I don't have to deal with hard CC or hard chase that screws me over. Maybe just don't run Darius into her next time, and it might work out better for you.

Big LincolnMar 28, 20162 votes

"just don't pick melee at all"

yeah, that's totally not a problem with a champion design at all

Aarn13Mar 28, 20163 votes

Yeah that's totally why Volibear, Rammus, Skarner, and Vi are total shit against Quinn ....

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20161 votes

Skarner and Vi are great toplane picks.

Aarn13Mar 28, 20163 votes

Right? Or you can take them jungle, and pick someone else, like Panth, Malph, or maybe even a Vlad top, and really screw her. Or just gank her when she's pushed up. Or camp her. All valid strategies.

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20162 votes

Pantheon and Malph are just as free win as her and Vladimir never beats Quinn unless Quinn is retarded.

Camping or ganking is something that applies to every single champ except that Quinn has better escape tools than alot of other toplaners.

Aarn13Mar 28, 20162 votes

Pantheon can completely ignore Quinn's passive with his, has higher range on his Q, W, & E that are all higher than her return dash range for Vault, her AA range, and can ignore her Q (like most top lane champions) by standing behind minions, which means a Panth should run up to her, wait until she tries to vault away from him, then W ->E->Q and probably have her fairly well screwed over. ; Malph: play safe and all in her with a gank, whats she going to do? Vault out of a knock up? Plus he has an ability that slows(which again has more range than her AA or her Vault bounce), and one that reduces AS. Vlad: again the word there was "maybe"

As to the ganking: she has one escape tool if she gets properly ganked. Vault. Sure she can get lucky and complete a two second channel ability which she gets knocked out of if she gets hit by a champion, or slowed if a minion decides to do something about her. So Vault yeah? That one ability that puts her at AA range from one champion that she vaults from in melee? Cool. That'll be helpful if they have an ability to chase me down in the 9~12 seconds it requires for her to get that back up. If she's pushed up, she's screwed.

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20161 votes

I said Pantheon and Malphite are just as free win as Quinn is top lane...don't know what you are trying to do here. Pantheon is useless after 20 mins though, so his lane dominance is justified.

Ganking or camping a champion is not counterplay. You can camp Pantheon and Malphite too and they have a much harder time escaping than Quinn.

Aarn13Mar 28, 20162 votes

Well then, I'm confused what point you're trying to make here. That Quinn can win lane easily? Okay? Sure, back to previous point about people not changing their characters to counterpick. But, once out of lane, there's way too many damn champions that can just lock her down and kill her. Most fed ADC/Support combos will annihilate her. The only time she has the ability to teamfight is with a zeal item, and not really team fight potential. Her Harriers can only affect one person, using E into a group is almost a death sentence, Skystrike is a pittance of what it use to be without its execute. She almost has to build Sterak's or Maw to survive late game engages. So sure, she has lane dominance, I'll admit that, but what else? She can get to lane quick? Alright. That's nice. She can see with her W? Yeah. But in this stupid Tank meta, she's a liability on a team because Quinn being top lane is a sacrifice of actual tank. Even champions that she can bullies in lane can come back and punish her, i.e. Darius & Nasus.

There's no point in nerfing her unless Riot just actively wants to put her back in Pre-6 obsucurity because people complain too much.

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20161 votes

She wins lane by default then roams mid or bot and wins that lane too...game is over at 20 minutes. Super high early game pressure while also scaling super hard just because she is a ranged autoattacker. Champions with such strong roaming abilities shouldn't be able to get a free win in their own lane. Look at TF, he is pretty vulnerable in lane because he can tp bot every 3 mins and help his bot lane get a double and drake which is huge. Pantheon wins his lane all the time too and his roaming is very impactful too but atleast you know he is absolutely useless after 25 mins.

Aarn13Mar 28, 20162 votes

Have you played a game against Quinn recently?

I'm getting the impression either that a.) you played against her and your team fed the crap out of her or b.) you have no idea what your talking about. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here, really. Quinn is not that powerful once lane phase is done.

The Bíg TicketMar 29, 20162 votes

Rofl...just checked your profile and saw you are a Quinn main who is Bronze for his 3rd straight season. Of course you are gonna defend her lmao.

I can assure you I have played vs hundreds of Quinns who were ALOT better than you and play her to her full potential. No offense but I am 100% sure about that. If by "not that powerful" you mean she doesn't bully 95% of all melee champs outside of laning phase anymore then yes you are right rofl. The fact that she is a ranged adc and buys adc items alone means she scales hard into lategame. WAY better than Pantheon for example whose lane dominance is comparable to Quinn's.

Aarn13Mar 29, 20162 votes

Wow, it took you that long to check my profile and see I'm a Quinn main? Good job = ) Probably wouldn't sit here talking to people like you if she wasn't my main.

You make less and less sense every time you post by the way. "If by "not that powerful" you mean she doesn't bully 95% of all melee champs outside of laning phase anymore then yes you are right rofl." The hell are you talking about here? I haven't been saying that she's not powerful because she can't bully people once she's out of lane. And you're right she builds adc items but you know what that means? She has the same problems as any other ADC I'm saying that she's squishy as hell, and CC will destroy her, and she has just about 0 teamfight.

So anyway, does my Rank and Quinn main status mean you're right? Hell no. I mean I just think it means you can't argue and you've fallen back to natural status of troll. But you know what, eh, think what you want to think.

DarkinlegendApr 1, 20161 votes

Idiots always defend clearly unbalanced champions

MistikalMar 28, 20163 votes

So, because she is finally in a good spot after years of being in urgot class she needs to be olafed? nah. She has quite a bit of counter play. The same as any top lane adc. Hard lock down, solid ganks. Safe farming, letting the tower fall if needed and the fact that she is somewhat irrelevant in team fights so long as you don't feed her early. A top lane tank always will outscale a top lane adc. It's just a matter of playing around the kit until that timer finally pops.

Asking to nerf someone because you personally can't handle them is just kinda sad.

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20162 votes

Top lane tank outscaling a top lane adc lmfao.

TenshouSNKMar 28, 20162 votes

I mean, I have seen a lot more proplayers take her mid than top...Just saying. I think she is more scary in mid because she can flank both top and bot whenever.

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20162 votes

Played top 53% of the time Played mid 13% of the time.

WoonStruckMar 28, 20161 votes

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I mean, I have seen a lot more proplayers take her mid than top...Just saying. I think she is more scary in mid because she can flank both top and bot whenever.

That's because they use her for ganking, since she gets in basically for free. She's the new Rengar, but she's ranged, isn't useless if she doesn't get a lead, and has more utility. She trades instantaneous assassination and invisibility for it, but that's why pros use her mid.

The Bíg TicketMar 27, 20161 votes

But you only lose lane lane to Quinn because she has such a dedicated playerbase who all have hundreds of games on her.

She is not a free win top lane.

CrossetteMar 28, 20163 votes

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She is a free win top lane.

FTFY

That's why I went 23-2-6 in my first Quinn top game.

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20162 votes

People on the internet can't detect sarcasm anymore if you don't put a kappa or some other retarded shit behind your sentence.

CrossetteMar 28, 20161 votes

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People on the internet can't detect sarcasm in my posts because it doesn't exist in my brainless mind.

FTFY again.

Do I need to fix more?

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20161 votes

You need to stop quoting sentences you don't understand imo.

CrossetteMar 28, 20163 votes

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I need to stop quoting sentences I don't understand imo.

FTFY

SalronMar 28, 20166 votes

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But you only lose lane lane to Quinn because she has such a dedicated playerbase who all have hundreds of games on her.

Nice generalization

The Bíg TicketMar 28, 20162 votes

Thats what the Quinn mains tell you.

WoonStruckMar 28, 20161 votes

All they need to do is make it so vault doesn't apply harrier or reduce vault's range by 25-50..

Then they can add other things to make her more interesting.

Her current gameplay pattern takes no brain function and is extremely binary, which shouldn't be the case for ADC.

Vlad got nerfed for having a less oppressive lane vs melees. And he still gets screwed by gapclosing champs WAY harder. Anyone smart enough to buy Spirit Visage+mercs or hexdrinker outscales him until 25 minutes and can kill him by just chasing down, gapcloser or not. His sustain before 25 minutes is pitiful. Its WotA that allows him to even function before then.

Quinn? Quinn gets away with it for free.

DarkinlegendApr 1, 20161 votes

Quinn is total BS, and her annoy factor is super high, it literally makes players play badly because she is so god damn annoying