I swear, if I don't see nerfs to Jhin/Jax/Graves/Eve/Kass/Akali/Aatrox next patch

melior sum··49 votes·15,106 views

I'm going to flip my shit

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Mael bro17 votes

What about this shit? Irelia Irelia Irelia Irelia Irelia

Barcid8 votes

Honestly, she just needs to be removed at this point...

General Matty1 votes

Delete her LOL

I memba balance 14 votes

cough Irelia Khazix cough COUGH COUGH

Ragnaveil10 votes

How about nerf damage across the board? I've mentioned this in a post I made a while back that all the champ ratios and stuff are still tuned to the old system, meaning some champs have more or less damage depending on what the optimal runepage they ran in the old system was.

Ahris1 votes

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How about nerf damage across the board? I've mentioned this in a post I made a while back that all the champ ratios and stuff are still tuned to the old system, meaning some champs have more or less damage depending on what the optimal runepage they ran in the old system was.

Then nerf tanks.

Dr40UR9 votes

Kai'sa too, IMO.

But Aatrox needs a buff, not a nerf lol. He has a terrible win-rate, and is generally not in the best spot. Yeah, if you manage to walk into every single one of his very small and very telegraphed Q's, you will take a lot of damage. But wouldn't you rather take a lot of damage from someone with the skill to actually land those abilities, than someone like Pantheon taking half your health with two abilities that you can't dodge?

Blåbæret33 votes

Kaisa has needed nerfs for a long while. The champion is busted.

Frightning4 votes

Wait till you try the same build Kai'Sa's are doing now on Varus....XD Even more busted tbqh (Also really good build on Kog'Maw)....hmmm maybe it's the items that are problem?

Daddy Ants13 votes

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Kaisa has needed nerfs for a long while. The champion is busted.

Riot's biggest mistake was buffing everything else on top of her attack range in 8.6.

After3perma12 votes

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But Aatrox needs a buff, not a nerf lol. He has a terrible win-rate, and is generally not in the best spot.

Please tell me you are trolling?

Alzon2 votes

Anyone who can run at him fast and sit on his face crushes him.

Jaspers7 votes

Cool, tell pros that, because I expect the 100% pick ban in Play-ins to continue until Worlds Final.

Alzon1 votes

Because he still tears apart teamfights no matter how he does in lane...

DuskDaUmbreon8 votes

Dude what.

Do...do you not know anything about Aatrox?

TheCodeisCupCake1 votes

Aatrox auto wins laning phase its such bullshit.

General Matty2 votes

lol i can just pick Darius and like magic he is 0/6 by 15 minutes.

d9u7c1anh1 votes

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lol i can just pick Darius and like magic he is 0/6 by 15 minutes.

Then either you are good or that Aatrox suck.

General Matty1 votes

both XD. (jk i'm silver D:)

TheCodeisCupCake1 votes

Then the Aatrox has parkinsons

Shleelpboy6 votes

Yasuo nerfs? maybe some Kayle nerfs? Conqueror nerfs? I mean if I see Conqueror getting nerfed i would be smiling of joy.

BeatzBoyFTW19 votes

Yasuo nerfs?

No no no, wait, DON'T SAY THAT WO-

Yasuo mains & "mains": https://imgur.com/BNmTAeW

saltran12 votes

I'm an adc main, and I usually ban him cuz I tend to play MF.

Yasuo doesn't need nerfs and he's fine.

Mordepool3 votes

Doesn't need nerf - sure Far from fine he needs a GU with a lethal injection of counterplay

Frightning8 votes

He has a ton of counterplay as is. Just that people below gold tend to not really grasp what that counterplay is, and in bronze they don't even know the concept. There's a reason his win rate is like #1 in bronze and middle of the pack in gold+ elo or thereabouts.

Mordepool4 votes

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He has a ton of counterplay as is

ROFL. LOLOLOLOL.

*Breathe LOLOLOLOLOL

Wow. He has very limited counterplay at best.

  1. always be behind your lane minions
  2. poke with AA, break shield
  3. Fight him in target devoid areas.
  4. dodge point blank tornado

Morde has More Counterplay in 2 abilities than Yas has in his kit. I challenge you to name a "TON"more than what Ive provided

Sharpest glasses8 votes

you're clearly biased... would be a waste of time to list all.

Morde has More Counterplay in 2 abilities than Yas has in his kit.

hell no. Your braindead champ need a rework and will be reworked.

Mordepool3 votes

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you're clearly biased...

Yeah I hate riots favorite child

would be a waste of time to list all.

No actually it wouldn't it would be a worthy addition to the discussion

hell no. Your braindead champ need a rework and will be reworked.

Still doesn't change the fact he has more Counterplay than Yas

Sharpest glasses4 votes

Still doesn't change the fact he has more Counterplay than Yas

??? you can dodge every spell of Yasuo. You cant avoid most of morde damage as melee.

Mordepool3 votes

Like when he casts sweeping blade on you followed by an Aoe 375 unit radius 3rd cast steel tempest?!???!!!??? Yup you can definitely dodge that.

You can avoid Mordes W because it actually has a cooldown 14 rank 1. And all his Q have an timer where he must land an AA or it goes on CD. So you Disengage and rengage based around those cooldowns. Mordes E is his weakest spell and is the only one that lacks meaningful counterplay.

I've put forth facts you haven't added anything meaningful or highlighted any more innate Counterplay in Yasou's kit. I'm done talking to you.

D357R0Y3R5 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/W4Vtwwfm-im-going-to-destroy-the-entire-board-with-a-single-thread

tfw this thread was made by the best Mordekaiser EUW OMEGALUL

Morde has no counterplay at all, Mordekaiser mains really make me laugh sometimes. His only counterplay is "muh muh uhuhuh get away from him!!!!!" he's a fucking shit design that needs to be reworked and sucks the fun of this game from everyone playing against him

Yasuo is not as binary as Morde like it or not. His Q can be dodged, his W has a window of power, his shield has a window of power, his E is only good in situations where a lot of minions are around , and his ult cannot be used without a knock up

Mordepool1 votes

Let me preface: I don't have any problems fighting Yasou.

I'm was simply stating that OP implying he has Tons of counterplay without being willing to list it. Is laughable.
This discussion is about Counterplay and here I am the only one willing to submit facts while the rest of the posters are all too keen to throw insults my way without challenging my arguments. Go be lazy somewhere else. Tired of ignorant board members BS.

TheCodeisCupCake4 votes

Yasuo just needs 'nerfs' to his late game. Make his Q scale is all I want. Start it at an 80% Ad Ratio and lower its base dmg. Idc about his mid-late game tbh thats fine. But right now he has the power to bully juggernauts if played right

Daddy Ants3 votes

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Yasuo nerfs? maybe some Kayle nerfs? Conqueror nerfs? I mean if I see Conqueror getting nerfed i would be smiling of joy.

Kayle nerfs?

What.

Kloak1 votes

I'd like to understand this too, never in my 4 years of playing league have I seen an overbearing Kayle.

SSW Talon1 votes

Yasuo isn't good Kayle also isn't good Fuuuuuck yes lets nerf Conq, it's bullshit.

hhaavviikk5 votes

inb4 more lee sin buffs next patch because he isn't used enough in lcs yet

WoΘxer1 votes

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inb4 more lee sin buffs next patch because he isn't used enough in lcs yet

Like he ever was used in lcs.

FéliXXX2 votes

he was played 24 7 in every server lck lpl lcs worlds...

Spank the Fox4 votes

Eve? Lmao

Schenix3 votes

Or, we could change Stormrazor and tweak the ADC items a bit more so that other ADC's are viable to compete again [with eachother] rather than one sweep and then tiny adjustments aimed at a whole class rather than the limited number in the class. Then another pass at Jhin, Kai'Sa, Graves, and sleeper meta forever Miss Fortune can be looked at again.

Jax needs some taps, I agree. He's very consistent and doing well which might not seem like a problem at face value, however he also retains a large impact on games from laning phase to teamfighting, to split pushing, frontlining, bursting, and objective taking. Rather powerful statement of a champion to boast.

Kassadin is good, but not overbearing imo and depending on where the meta goes will need nerfs accordingly. But as is, I don't think he's sorely in need of being touched just for performing very well and not being particularly oppressive. The numbers he possesses at the moment means generally for any champion, that the meta is favoring them at the moment and can change with other balance notes that need not touch whatever decently good thing they have going on. Kassadin is on the line without needing anything yet for the purpose he provides to a team, but should be kept watch on as the next patch or two comes out and Worlds winds down. Can easily drop a little or spike, and he's very volatile as far as champions go.

Akali and Aatrox are doing awful in regular play, they have Ryze syndrome basically. Akalis shroud being unhealthy and toxic doesn't mean she needs nerfs, it means the mechanic needs to change, so that she can actually have a more fleshed out power budget to balance. As she is, so much is in W that even though her regular win rate tanks, the budget is so heavily invested in W that they will make other parts of her kit imbalanced for the sake of her being unique rather than balanced. If they do decide to change the Shroud so it can actually be seen by turrets at the very least, there might be something to work with. I don't even know what to suggest about Aatrox -- his kit is just pro play sensitive like Ryze and probably won't be easily viable anymore in ranked. It's not as bad as Ryze at least, but it's comparable.

Champion balance is honestly exhausting, nerfing damage across the board with a major numbers nerf to everything would be great just to grant a buffer. Sort of like cutting away the foam just to see the liquid. Foam is just all damage right now and it's covering up a lot of balance appropriations to whether something kills fast or can survive, which makes it two extremes rather than balance (that means patch notes are too busy with the damage and not on kits, objectives, and most other items that are not burst), and the ones in between are just taken out of the equation. It also explains why there's such a large disparity in effectiveness between meta and non-meta champions this season and how solo carry potential is directly influenced by that as well, making for a miserable experience if you are fed on a meta champ vs off-meta to drag a team across the enemy nexus.

ZaFishbone1 votes

Go ahead.

Thilmer1 votes

I'm somehow afraid that Riot buffed them even more with some bullshit excuse. We know the balance team too well…

Neptunia xoxo1 votes

You are missing like 15 other champs bro

Starcraft243ver1 votes

Waiting for the youtube link.

SwagusMagus1 votes

Nerf Aatrox? That Champion is literally tryharding everygame in order to win some games because of how clunky his kit are. He can't carry the games almost and are heavy countered if you go into meele combat with him. I know some players will probably downvote my post, but please understand that Aatrox really need thoose buffs in order to like do something in the game. Don't remind me about him being played in lcs but that's really important is it? Because we are talking about in soloq or ranked flex. He just need some big time revert of his old kit but buffed.

Jakxcombat1 votes

Don't nerf Jhin just nerf stormrazor. Jhin has had one change in how long and people are just now saying that he needs nerfs which means he himself isn't unbalanced just what he uses.

Vlada Cut1 votes

But they wanted to improve Aatrox's late game. Maybe tone down his lvl 6 - 9 damage then?

General Matty1 votes

How about we just gut Tahm Kench more because he can save people from a 1-shot meta.

Shleelpboy1 votes

Nasus Nerf just a suggestion.

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