Get Rid of Mandatory Support meta

Woook3r·Mar 24, 2016·6 votes·600 views

Duo Jg is the only answer.

15 Comments

Got 2 DadsMar 24, 20162 votes

Do it yourself, duo q or get your teams permission tho.

Woook3rMar 24, 20161 votes

good point. you would need trio q. bc adc needs to be involved. Send them mid I guess. What is a good 2v1 champ for bot adc and sup vs solo laner?

Woook3rMar 24, 20162 votes

Heimerdinger?

SlythionMar 24, 20161 votes

Cait is a fairly safe adc to solo lanes with for safe farm

Got 2 DadsMar 24, 20161 votes

lots of ADCs can actually safely farm the 2v1, just need rage and/or wave clear with an escape. Someone like Trist, Cait, Ezreal, Lucian. I am also a believer i nthe double jungle if you can get people on board.

VexfulMar 24, 20161 votes

Could send top to bot like LCS lane swaps and put your mid laner vs the enemies tank/bruiser. ADC vs Mid.

Woook3rMar 24, 20161 votes

Draven vs azir is very satisfying...

Athenes LuluMar 24, 20162 votes

Or just run smite on supports, and now junglers are the ones underleveled too.

Let's do it.

Paladin 0f LifeMar 24, 20161 votes

junglers are already under leveled

III BAKURYU III Mar 24, 20161 votes

you also gotta remember in a 2v1 lane the 2 champion laners will get xp divided among themselves while the solo will get doubled, if the solo guy just plays safe and not die he will out scale the 2v1. Duo jungle is not bad, if your saying duo jungle for a camp while the top gets the small camps. What I tend to do is when I'm top and my jungler is starting at bot side leash I ask the mid if they want to do a camp where they get the small Raptors and I get the big one, it also saves the tp with just tanking 1 Raptor so you can go to lane with minimum damage and no need to back for hp.

Woook3rMar 24, 20161 votes

nope. Two full junglers. Not just the exp cheese strat.

ElindiirMar 24, 20162 votes

Double jungle is an invade strategy. However, it is only useful if the 2 junglers are in comms so that they can plot out their assaults. If done right, a double jungle will do 1 of 2 things:

1: (If the enemy doesn't ward their own jungle and/or their laners don't help) You start farming THEIR jungle and the jungler too.

2: (If the enemy laners actually give a **** about their jungler) You force the enemy laners to go after you, causing them to lose lane.

Woook3rMar 24, 20161 votes

These are good thoughts, i think. Especially 2, which sounds pretty exciting.

I wonder if dynamic queue will be what is needed to make this possible.

I wonder if a new trinket might be useful. Some trinket that has a very brief duration and a nice cast range, but a very low cooldown too. Yellows can be more permanent, if you need to farm in a pushed lane u can use them. But if you need skirmish vision, you take the one with low cooldown.

MeserionMar 24, 20161 votes

Removing the "mandatory support" meta is no simple task. The only reason we need support is because we need ADC, and ADC needs all the gold and XP it can get. As a result we need a role that doesn't need a lot of gold and not a lot of levels; in this case, the support. The real problem is ADCs are too powerful, and are too gold reliant, to make it feasible to not have an ADC and to not need a support.

For a short time Mordekaiser had the potential of causing bot lane to change, but based on the nerfs to him and the nerfs to towers and buffs to dragon, we can say Riot wants ADC/Support meta.