The sorcery tree is not even horrible, it's beyond than that

D357R0Y3R··7 votes·1,227 views

Every single game there is AT BEST one or two champs going sorcery secondary. Nobody except enchanters goes for sorcery primary

it's so trash, but I can't even say that it's trash because even trash is better than this tree.

Aery: Underwhelming damage since they nerfed the damage 3 times, good if you want to shield people moral of the story: only good on enchanters

Comet: only good on champions who poke, if you're not a poking champions it's absolute trash and has 0 synergy with you compared to other keystones on other champions

Phase rush: Good rune, no comment

Manaflow band: Good rune, but if you're manaless you can't take it

Nimbus cloack: Only good on a set of champions, either you abuse the shit out of it or it's garbage and pointless

Nullifying orb: garbage

Celerity: HAHAHAHA, WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? It's the most useless shit I've ever seen it's the most terribly thought rune, it doesn't interact with items, only on champions's abilities. But it gives you 10% more movement speed on your movement speed steroid but if you already have too much movement speed YOU DON'T NEED EVEN MORE OF IT especially since you're going to have the soft cap of movement speed.

Absolute Focus: was broken, and now it's trash

Transcendance: good rune overall, except if you're a champion who doesn't build CDR. the cdr-->ad/ap converstion is garbage, and most of the time you dodn't use it unless you troll build, so you lose half of the rune's effect.

waterwalking (I don't even remember the name): only good if you're a jungler

scorch: garbage

Gstorm : good rune if you want to scale, terrible if you're a champion who absolutely don't care about late game.

MORAL OF THE STORY

The sorcery tree tilts me so hard, because it contains so much garbage runes, and so much runes that are only good on a certain set of champions

And I hope that Riot will take action soon.

17 Comments

Grimspeake8 votes

Socery tree is good idk what ur on about

booNflesruoYnaB4 votes

The sorcery tree is for mages and mages are supposed to suck. If they didn't, then all those melee assassins would have to put some effort when they play and we wouldn't want that.

ZephyrDrake4 votes

so what you are telling me is that supportive keystone is good on supports... the poke keystone is good on poke champions and phase rush is somehow "good" even though it has less users than either aery or comet? you are also telling me that a rune that is all about mana regen is useless on manaless champions? Nimbus cloak who has slightly lower amount of users as phase rush is bad but somehow phase rush isn't and that a free hexdrinker shield is garbage? the late game scaling rune is bad for non-scaling champions? somehow transendance is only good if you build more CDR or go over the cap...

you know I can say the same thing about every single tree right?

D357R0Y3R1 votes

You're post pretty much acknowledged my points

sorcery is garbage because unless you hypersynergise it's not good, which is why almost nobody takes it anymore

because they nerfed ALL the runes that everyone could take

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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You're post pretty much acknowledged my points

sorcery is garbage because unless you hypersynergise it's not good, which is why almost nobody takes it anymore

because they nerfed ALL the runes that everyone could take

"almost nobody takes it" plenty of people take it. I guess supports and poke champions along with champions that use mana are a vast minority in this game

Saezio4 votes

Phase rush is good and all, but how does it fit under sorcery is beyond me. I could see it in Tank tree or even inspo. I don't get how it is on the mage tree, is it solely for vlad and co?

Lucas Fehrwight1 votes

Its pretty good on annie too. Its particularly good on burst champions because it allows them to go in and come out with very little consequences.

Saezio1 votes

Wouldn't you want harvest on annie though? Or was it nerfed on her too hard? My annie playstyle also doesn't care much about getting out :P

Because if you flash in use all the spells zhonyas etc PR will be gone before you even start going out. To me it is more of a chase rune for champs like Nasus or Darius or vlad that don't have real CC but can stick to you if they manage to get there. For tough matchups.

Marshbouy1 votes

It's a carry over from the old mastery system that was basically "auto attacking stuff, spell stuff, and tank stuff"

IAmTheLego3 votes

Idk about you, but I find that tree decent.

And you forgot gathering storm.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

I put absolute focus twice by mistake , but I talked about it

Saezio1 votes

Well, the secondary choices don't fit mages very well. Or that is what I think. Let me be more specific.

The synergy between Assassins and Domination Marksmen and Precision

Is nowhere near the synergy between Mages and Sorcery. It could just be me but don't ADC and Assassins get WAY more from their runes than Mages? Just think of a game where none has any rune, who would be fucked more? the mage without comet? or the assassin w/o electro and the adc w/o precision and the fuckload of stats it provides?

Some runes just make more or less 0 sense to be in the tree they are in

Examples :

Tenacity rune not being in the tank tree Pressence of mind not being in the mage tree Nimbus cloak not being in the assassin tree Zombie Ward not being an inspiration rune

I am talking from a thematic POV and not a balance POV. I am guessing these all have justifications..........................

P.S. This is my opinion and I know it's not 100% objective.

The thigh guy1 votes

My issue with sorcery tree (keystones atleast) is almost EVERYTHING they do, domination does better.

Why take comet when dark harvest scales harder and doesn’t require your trading tool to have a slow

Why take Aery when electrocute is strictly better unless your shielding.

Why take phase rush when predator is strictly better.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

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My issue with sorcery tree (keystones atleast) is almost EVERYTHING they do, domination does better.

Why take comet when dark harvest scales harder and doesn’t require your trading tool to have a slow

Comet is better to poke

Why take Aery when electrocute is strictly better unless your shielding.

Why take phase rush when predator is strictly better.

phase rush makes you immune to slows it's very good against nasus

overall sorcery is not "worse domination"

it's just that its runes like scorch absolute focus celerity are pure garbage

The thigh guy1 votes

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Comet is better to poke

phase rush makes you immune to slows it's very good against nasus

overall sorcery is not "worse domination"

it's just that its runes like scorch absolute focus celerity are pure garbage

Comet is better if you have repeatable poke, that also has some sort of cc attached to it. That’s the only time comet is better than electrocute. And those are some MASSIVE conditions to be met.

Yes. Phase rush makes you immune to slows, but predator gives you massive burst potential and more ms than phase rush, unless slowed by more than 40%

Moonscourge1 votes

Nullifying Orb garbage??? It's an additional 200 to 300 HP It's one of the best ones.

Comet is all around very good. A ton of champions can easily use it.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

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Nullifying Orb garbage??? It's an additional 200 to 300 HP It's one of the best ones.

only against magic damage

nobody takes it if you go primary chances are you're enchanters/some magees and get manaflow band if you're secondary, you will take other runes

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