I don't know why people hated the flat pen build so much.

HateDaddy·Sep 26, 2016·3 votes·450 views

Especially the champions it impacts the least: tanks/bruisers. I guess I could see it being annoying for squishy champions because you are suddenly getting bursted by a champion that typically does more sustained damage than burst. But then again, you're squishy and die if someone sneezes on you.

For tanks/bruisers, carries can itemize to ignore a good chunk of your armor no matter what and the flat pen build falls off because it doesn't manipulatively scale your stats nearly as well as Crit/AS. It's just another way to build and considering this board always bitches and moans about build variety, it's pretty hilarious to see people demand that a non generic AS/Crit build be nerfed. Make up your minds lol.

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PermabannedGarenSep 26, 20161 votes

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Especially the champions it impacts the least: tanks/bruisers. I guess I could see it being annoying for squishy champions because you are suddenly getting bursted by a champion that typically does more sustained damage than burst. But then again, you're squishy and die if someone sneezes on you.

For tanks/bruisers, carries can itemize to ignore a good chunk of your armor no matter what and the flat pen build falls off because it doesn't manipulatively scale your stats nearly as well as Crit/AS. It's just another way to build and considering this board always bitches and moans about build variety, it's pretty hilarious to see people demand that a non generic AS/Crit build be nerfed. Make up your minds lol.

People hated it because an alarming amount of tank and bruiser players itemize pretty much just for armour, so builds that pretty much erased all the armour they built make them die very quickly.

No, seriously.

http://champion.gg/champion/Malphite/Top

Can you imagine how high Malphite's win rate would be if he bought more than one health item? MF's ability to make you have basically no armour (since she is the ADC who can build the most amount of armour pen) becomes a lot less crippling if you also have around 4,000 HP.

HateDaddySep 26, 20162 votes

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People hated it because an alarming amount of tank and bruiser players itemize pretty much just for armour, so builds that pretty much erased all the armour they built make them die very quickly.

No, seriously.

http://champion.gg/champion/Malphite/Top

Can you imagine how high Malphite's win rate would be if he bought more than one health item? MF's ability to make you have basically no armour (since she is the ADC who can build the most amount of armour pen) becomes a lot less crippling if you also have around 4,000 HP.

I think almost 53% winrate for malphite is too high in general for a champion that is so binary

PermabannedGarenSep 26, 20161 votes

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I think almost 53% winrate for malphite is too high in general for a champion that is so binary

Malphite is possibly my most hated champion in the game tbh. I have no idea why a champion is allowed to somewhat bully melee fighters in lane, scale into one of the tankiest champions in the game with huge disruption, has enough damage to kill your ADC by himself, and most painful of all can even duel most melee carries through at least the mid game, if not longer. At least Gnar (probably my second most hated top laner) has windows of vulnerability. Malphite's only windows or vulnerability are a bad player running out of mana.

But the boards love him for some reason. Probably because he gets huge results while being incredibly simple to play.

HateDaddySep 26, 20161 votes

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Malphite is possibly my most hated champion in the game tbh. I have no idea why a champion is allowed to somewhat bully melee fighters in lane, scale into one of the tankiest champions in the game with huge disruption, has enough damage to kill your ADC by himself, and most painful of all can even duel most melee carries through at least the mid game, if not longer. At least Gnar (probably my second most hated top laner) has windows of vulnerability. Malphite's only windows or vulnerability are a bad player running out of mana.

But the boards love him for some reason. Probably because he gets huge results while being incredibly simple to play.

It's funny because they're awful at him too lol

PermabannedGarenSep 26, 20161 votes

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It's funny because they're awful at him too lol

Yeah, can't even build him right lol.

Almost every "wtf I died in like two seconds with eight billion armour as Malphite" thread is about a game where they built no HP other than a sunfire.

MiraweaveSep 26, 20161 votes

I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, I really like that there are ADCs who aren't building crit: crit is really bad for the game and the worse it is the better.

On the other hand, when flat penetration items are already the most efficient damage items for ad champions, you end up with a situation where as a squishy, picking up a bit of early armor counts for essentially nothing unless you actually go for a tank build because between runes and stacking penetration they can still have you at very close to zero effective armor. In contrast, magic penetration can't be stacked the same way, so picking up some MR components and sitting on them can actually mean something in a way that's not true with armor.