Stop Thinking Kills Mean Everything

VvVVvV·May 24, 2018·1 votes·800 views

Tired of seeing people being toxic and flaming someone saying they do no damage just because they dont have a lot of kills, just to see post game stats and that person is either 1st or 2nd on the team in damage.

If someone leads the team in damage with 1, 2 or 0 kills all that means is they didnt get the kill shot..... Makes me sick to see someone have like 9 kills being toxic complaining about damage, thinking they are carrying, and then you look at the post game stats and they have less than 10k damage from a carry role.

You didnt carry anything, you just got the kill shot.

9 Comments

AzadetheMay 24, 20181 votes

I'm going to try to be nice this time.

This conversation is a hell of a lot more complex than what you are positing.

10k damage can mean something if they were pure assassinations.

I often underdamage other Morgana because I take Electrocute, not comet. But.... My damage contributes to pure kills, not harass. A champ who spends the game landing kill combos but not harassing at points where the opponent an just heal right out of it..... is doing just as much as the person who spams and does twice the damage.

Some enchanters are notorious for having those kills, like . You have to look at their heals, shields, kill participation, warding too.
You need to analyze objective contribution. Some players have horrible champ damage, but push 20+k in objective damage... so they are really influencing games.

Now...... if you're consistently a Thresh scoring like 2/9/8..... the 2/8 part doesn't mean much...... except for the fact you only have 8 assists.

If you only have 10 kill/assist on a Thresh, regularly...... that's a problem. If you end games 2/9/18...... that's closer to productive. If you end games 2/9/30, you're on track to being an honor bound Thresh. If you're a 5/2/30 Thresh...... You're going to be climbing ranks in no time, deserve honors, and are definitely being productive.

That's more or less how you have to break down stats.....

P.S. It's common for a 20 kill Evelynn to end game with only 20K damage to champs.... because her damage is EFFICIENT.

VvVVvVMay 24, 20181 votes

I understand what you are saying. But you threw a lot more into it than what im talking about. Im talking about the people who after you do about %90 of the health of someone, come up drooling on themselves and kill the person or people. Then down the line complain and make a comment like "do some damage, you have no kills." And then post game you have like double or triple their damage to champs. Those are the people im talking about.

basically what brought this post on was a game where i was Zyra.....i finished with 0 kills, but had more damage than the 7 kill Yi and 1 k less damage than his 7 kill yorick duo partner.

Both of them complaining about damage and i was right there with them.....hell they both finished the game with ZERO damage to turrets....i didnt say nothing to them about it...but seriously....how does a Yorick finish a game with 0 damage to turrets? Thats unheard of.

AzadetheMay 24, 20181 votes

Dunno if his minions count as his turret damage but that's a good question....

xPhantomDancerXMay 24, 20181 votes

{quoted}

I'm going to try to be nice this time.

This conversation is a hell of a lot more complex than what you are positing.

10k damage can mean something if they were pure assassinations.

I often underdamage other because I take Electrocute, not comet. But.... My damage contributes to pure kills, not harass. A champ who spends the game landing kill combos but not harassing at points where the opponent an just heal right out of it..... is doing just as much as the person who spams and does twice the damage.

Some enchanters are notorious for having those kills, like . You have to look at their heals, shields, kill participation, warding too.

You need to analyze objective contribution. Some players have horrible champ damage, but push 20+k in objective damage... so they are really influencing games.

Now...... if you're consistently a scoring like 2/9/8..... the 2/8 part doesn't mean much...... except for the fact you only have 8 assists.

If you only have 10 kill/assist on a Thresh, regularly...... that's a problem. If you end games 2/9/18...... that's closer to productive. If you end games 2/9/30, you're on track to being an honor bound Thresh. If you're a 5/2/30 Thresh...... You're going to be climbing ranks in no time, deserve honors, and are definitely being productive.

That's more or less how you have to break down stats.....

P.S. It's common for a 20 kill to end game with only 20K damage to champs.... because her damage is EFFICIENT.

Yeah. I can go 16/4/16 on wukong and still only do fourth highest damage.

AzadetheMay 24, 20181 votes

Well..... that DOES look like kill stealing, because Wu does have a lot of sustained damage in his ult.

Low damage on Wu means one of two things:

You 1 hit everyone without using your ult after getting .
You waited for low HP targets, stole some, and used your ult a few times.

He should have good damage returns..... and at least be in the top 2 damage dealers....

xPhantomDancerXMay 25, 20181 votes

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Well..... that DOES look like kill stealing, because Wu does have a lot of sustained damage in his ult.

Low damage on Wu means one of two things:

You 1 hit everyone without using your ult after getting .

You waited for low HP targets, stole some, and used your ult a few times.

He should have good damage returns..... and at least be in the top 2 damage dealers....

Lol. I exxagerated a bit. I haven't actually gotten 4th damage when I pop off like that. Probably like second or usually third damage. I usually do crap damage on team though, because I usually only go in on low health targets.

Demon King MaouMay 24, 20181 votes

You have no idea how many games i've lost due to them refusing to hit nexus

ZackTheWaffleManMay 24, 20181 votes

Damage isn't everything, either.

VvVVvVMay 24, 20181 votes

That is true too.....I never said it was. Im basically just saying people who are racking up kills shouldn't talk down to team mates who are not getting kills as if they are doing nothing just because they are not getting the killing blow.