I feel like where you are placed should be based on sole skill level

Succubús GF·Dec 21, 2016·2 votes·555 views

So a bunch of youtubers have been getting sponsored by lolsumo , an app that rates your performance, and along my placements, i kind of wondered why it isnt based on solo player performance rather than just win or lose, because it is you getting determined on where youll be placed, not your team. Of course when lolsumo rates you, i tend to take it with a bit of skepticism, such as getting x amount of kills is "diamond performance", i take this as, you are not diamond, but you performed very well kill wise, as such you are above a set amount of people in skill level. I just thought it would make more sense to be placed through an analysis of solo gameplay rather than a w/l mmr ratio. Thoughts?

15 Comments

venomous frostDec 21, 20162 votes

how is getting 20 kills in bronze "diamond level", when you would have never gotten those 20 kills in a real diamond game...

this is a team game, thus you are rated on how well you can perform in a team situation. I can counterpick a lane and win it, but I might make bad decisions that won't win us the game

Succubús GFDec 21, 20161 votes

In a team situation yet having 2 afks is possible, having sololane feeders is possible. Having troll premades is all very possible which is why it should go on n individual level

ZelorxonDec 21, 20161 votes

Don't copy me. :^)

Succubús GFDec 21, 20161 votes

I am not kidding c: go look at my 11/7 syndra game. My adc and support consistently went afk and stayed that way from aroun 15 to end of game

venomous frostDec 21, 20161 votes

then go play a 1v1 game, like starcraft

Succubús GFDec 21, 20161 votes

Go play 3v5 then, see how it feels twit.

ZelorxonDec 21, 20161 votes

SCV good to go sir!

deathgod5Dec 21, 20162 votes

Because skill get's determined by winning games. Not by who did some small things better.It's like determining the winner of a chess by saying who got the most pieces. It's nice that you got more pieces, but the goal is winning. You are good at a game when you manage to get the desired end objective(destroying enemy nexus) more then the enemy get's their end objective, not when you manage to be good at the side objectives.

ZelorxonDec 21, 20161 votes

Oh, so tell me, i once had a game where 3 premades started afk walking after i said to them "right click this thing" pinging a turret, we were stomping so far (i mean, I was stomping, and i could have easily carried that game). When i said that it was because karthus top which was winning just by running it down top, but for me it's more than enough to carry, let me die to ks me the guy holding red buff, at that point we could have won the game in 5 minutes just by playing aram mid, i didn't even cared i was killed there.

Now tell me what i could have done better, and i can quote you more than 1600 games this way since i started playing, in 5 years i played this game i can surely tell that i didn't had trolls and retards in like 50-90 games, over 5 years, and every game i won was 1v9, the rest were just too much.

Tell me if runaan ezreal should be taken in account in determining your rank, no because every time i play vs diamonds in premade with some friends they always think i'm a smurf since i steamroll their asses.

deathgod5Dec 21, 20161 votes

let me be clear, their are exceptions to this rule in a multiplayer game, since you will always have games with idiots, but it is still more then possible for good players to climb since if you have more skill then the average player you still climb.

ZelorxonDec 21, 20161 votes

Of course, but consider these numbers: Any elo below diamond 2 are people that DON'T KNOW how to play the game, not that they're bad, they simply don't know how to play it. 97% of the players Any pro gets instaplaced in plat 1 even if they go 0-10, and riot takes in account previous mmr for any diamond elo as well. (plat is the elo where even if you are with garbage in your team you can at least carry on your own without resorting to vodoo methods) Every pro player duos his way up to diamond 1/masters/challenger and refuses to solo/play non carry roles/champions until they're back to their elo. At the beginning of the season with the hard mmr reset before riot pulled out of the cylinder the "fix" every pro player (0.003% of the ladder) was HARD STUCK in silver.

Also give a read at this old ass thread of mine that got ignored.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/EYZMEEVi-just-a-couple-of-thoughts-i-had-and-i-wanted-to-add-up-about-soloq-aka-a-personal-donezo-manifesto (don't up it)

CochoDec 21, 20161 votes

Lolsumo's ratings are bs for several reasons. You can't just judge cs in general, some games are slower, some are more hectic. Placing 50 wards doesnt mean your ward placements are optimal. Having 30 kills doesn't mean you're challenger lol.

I've had matches in normals where I stomped and just got challenger on that across the boards. It means nothing.