@Riot Why do you guys hate Eve?

Koechophe··2 votes·428 views

I mean seriously, her newest nerf on the PBE is just insult to injury, at this point. They already have nerfed her beyond recognition over the years, and they just recently cut 1/5th of the damage off of her Q, now they're cutting 20 damage at all ranks off her E? (this means it does 30% less damage at rank 1). I mean, she doesn't have strong CC, her burst is becoming laughable, she's not a tank, the ONLY thing she really does is stealth. She is quickly becoming the most nerfed champion in the game (move over irellia), despite the fact that her rework was supposed to make her "balanceable". Obviously something went wrong, because when eve is balanced, riot just nerfs her over, and over, and over again. What, is stealth not #bigplays enough for you?

I just don't get it. Eve is already forced to build tank because she can't assassinate worth crap. Her identity is already flushed down the toilet. Can we get some sort of comment on the current state of eve, because obviously she's not in a good place if riot feels the need to nerf her consistently to the point of being unviable.

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Critmaster Garen1 votes

ive just posted this on another thread, so ill just copy/paste:

stealth paranoya. they said until they know what to do with eve, theyll nerf her every time until she sees play. she was balanced until the vision changes in preseason 4, which drastically reduced the counterplay to stealth, and basically turned her entire first rework to shit and useless.

no oracles anymore, no invisible (safe) pink wards, means its become extremely hard to ward properly against her. if youre behind in lane at any point and cant defend your pink ward, youre basically fucked. not to mention your opponent might take him out even when youre ahead, since leaving it for 10 seconds might already be enough.

you also can only place 1 pink, in contrast to before, which means you can only defend 1 entrance to your lane. meaning you opponent can just notify eve where it is and she ganks through another path.

imo her problems are easy to fix, but for some reason riot wont touch her passive any further. all they need to do is to make green wards issue a ping on themselves when she enters their vision area, without even revealing her (mandrake wards). then you can ward halfway decently against her and they can buff her base kit as compensation.

like 50% of her power budget is in her passive right now, and as long as its op, they will always nerf her if her base kit is anywhere near decent.

Koechophe1 votes

Honestly, her ganks are terrible even with stealth. She does negigable damage and is basically only there for the slow from challenger's smite or red. But if she doesn't get ahead early, she's still useless.

Also, can you show me where riot said they'd nerf eve if she ever saw play? I can't remember a comment to that effect ever. Or even one that they are planning on working on her. Their current outward message is "she's fine", but they keep nerfing her.

Also, if they ever got around to making the mandrake ward....

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Honestly, her ganks are terrible even with stealth.

yes, because they compensate for how unpredictable her ganks are by nerfing her kit to shit every time she shows some strength.

if her kit was strong with her current stealth mechanic, shed be pick or ban in both, solo que and pro play. weve seen it happening in the past.

doesnt mean i agree with this treatment, just pointing out whats happening.

Enosetc1 votes

good

nerf her again

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Eve with Ludens is the most broken thing in the game...

Koechophe1 votes

uhm, no. Not even remotely. Assassin eve really doesn't work, she gets blown up hardcore and she doesn't have high enough burst to justify it.

CppL1 votes

{quoted}

uhm, no. Not even remotely. Assassin eve really doesn't work, she gets blown up hardcore and she doesn't have high enough burst to justify it.

Cause she"s not burst champ ,she"s dps champ.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

{quoted}

uhm, no. Not even remotely. Assassin eve really doesn't work, she gets blown up hardcore and she doesn't have high enough burst to justify it.

She gets blown even if she builds tank... The AP build is way stronger than BORK /hexdrinker + tank items. I've seen AP Eve to explode ADCs and midlaners. Couldn't believe it, because Eve is usually trash and useful only for a ward later in the game.

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