"brainless waveclear meta is bad"
Riots trying to fix both issues and boards are crying about "mage nerfs"?
Color me surprised! The changes are very good for the game, dont listen to those silver mage mains riot.
But some top laners and tank supports should also get mana nerfs, champs like camille play out like if they basically have 0 mana costs.
The Bearded Bard5 votesI don't actually have a problem with the mage nerfs, I have a problem with the lack of equality in wave clear nerfs.
All have waveclear as strong as any mage, and they push towers way harder.
Big Lincoln3 votestalon waveclear is not nearly as good as a mage
ADCs are going to get adjusted soon, it's better they do them separately so each can be balanced easier
PokladnicaZla5 votesMaybe because mages aren't the only ones with good wave clear,but are the only ones getting ˝adjusted˝? Even funnier, weren't mage meant to have good wave clear as a class?
Ahristocats3 votes[deleted]
Thefrostyviking3 votesYou dont feel some of the nerfs are kinda overdone tho?
I can see how mage waveclear is a problem but arent some of the nerfs way too harsh?
Feels like some nerfs werent quite justified as some champs didnt even have strengths in waveclear&mana and still got nerfed harshly for it.
Ahristocats2 votesYou dont feel some of the nerfs are kinda overdone tho?
i'm waiting to see how it's going to be all i know is that the nerf is needed
and adc will get nerfed too
Malfectious2 votesThis will also allow for more damage to be brought back to burst mages.
Malix Farwin2 votes"brainless waveclear meta is bad"
Riots trying to fix both issues and boards are crying about "mage nerfs"?
Color me surprised! The changes are very good for the game, dont listen to those silver mage mains riot.
But some top laners and tank supports should also get mana nerfs, champs like camille play out like if they basically have 0 mana costs.
You missed the point entirely, thats why you make baseless claims, you simply are incapable of reading comprehension. The problem isn't that the changes are good or bad, that's irrelevant. The problem is they are putting mages even further behind AD without nerfing AD first/at the same time. Simple concept if you are not just being a Sheep and following Riots every whim unless of course its something that affects you then you will cry about it but since you don't play mages, who cares right?
OP Garen Support2 votesMages are balanced already, ADC's are not. Hence the reason why people complain.
Jobriq2 votesbut resourceless champs are ok?
Mordepool1 votesSo long as the Marksmen changes hit them hard we may be looking at a much healthier game state for the 2nd half of the season
MaxControl1 votesI feel like now the jungler is required to hand off blue buff for mid to roam.
taleofsonata1 votes Waveclears issue? I get my tornadoe every 3rd Q and it crits.
Malix Farwin1 votesIts not a coincidence that every single thread that is complaining about the Mage nerf is mentioning ADC. Maybe do research next time to figure out what the actual problem with a mage nerf right now is.
Thee Pie Man1 votesCan I ask some questions then; and you're free to sum them up with "wait see what midseason patches bring" because that's what I'm going to be doing, hoping that there's something that addresses these if I don't get a good answer from the boards.
So how are ADC's effected by wave clear above mages- is that just another advantage they have? Is League now rock, paper, scissors? I'm genuinely curious about your input on that. Do you feel ADC's should have more pushing power without sacrificing any resource, versus mages who I feel should be able to burst down waves easier than other classes with their kit, but their abilities come at the price of their damage. Either you build mana and lose out on damage for more abilities, or you build damage and lose out on the ability to clear better/faster. When the team game's reliance comes down to hoping the ADC gets fed, you're kind of left with no clear without sacrificing your damage. That doesn't seem very fun.
Tanks have items that let them effectively wave clear if it's not in their kit, ADC's damage is right now sustained by being alive, while Mages run out of mana and are now being gutted on that front.
I'm more than willing to wait and see what is happening, but with patches being released without context to what is coming forwards, you have to admit it's a bit trying and understandable for people to make the other threads.
