Unpopular Opinion: ADC's used to be an expression of skill

GreyfellD··3 votes·1,295 views

But that era has long since passed. With the runes available to them, ADC's start off much more powerful then they were and therefore require less skill. I remember that ADC's would have to farm for upwards of five to ten minutes to be remotely effective in combat. Nowadays, they are instantly effective from level one which goes against their class design which is slow, scaling power and playing for the late game (but the late game hardly every exists these days.)

It is true that they are a LOT squishier because of power creep but everything in the game has become so fast that there is no environment for ADC's to go back to what they originally were. Its sad.

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saltran3 votes

Yeah, this post, no.

Syrile3 votes

"ADC's start of much more powerful" in what world? You die if someone breaths on you the wrong way? Enemy support picks Vel'Koz, Brand, Zyra, Leona, Thresh, Alistar... I could go on... and you are basically burning paper that just melts in lane. The first three because they do way more damage than you the last three because they can all in you and kill you, much less if the ADC targets you. Ignite alone ensures they will all kill you and if you bring Teleport or Heal.... buwahahahaha

Metal Janna1 votes

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"ADC's start of much more powerful" in what world? You die if someone breaths on you the wrong way? Enemy support picks Vel'Koz, Brand, Zyra, Leona, Thresh, Alistar... I could go on... and you are basically burning paper that just melts in lane. The first three because they do way more damage than you the last three because they can all in you and kill you, much less if the ADC targets you. Ignite alone ensures they will all kill you and if you bring Teleport or Heal.... buwahahahaha

Have you never been bush cheesed?

Syrile1 votes

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Have you never been bush cheesed?

Killed from a bush? I mean... everyone starts off learning the hard way.

Sir Prepuzius2 votes

adc effective from level 1 ahhahaha

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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adc effective from level 1 ahhahaha

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actually lvl 1 is exactly where theyre more effective than the majority of the champions in the game.

because at lvl 1 everyone only trades with auto attacks, since the earliest to unlock all 3 base abilities is level 3. so naturally level 1 is where having that 1 point in an auto attack steroid and a ranged auto attack is one of the most effective times to play a marksman.

Sir Prepuzius1 votes

and unless you cheese how would you profit from this "huge advantage" adc have?

really, adc are in the trash bin right now, getting slapped back and forth in this meta, and this thread arises, claiming that adc are too powerful from the get go.

just please.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Prepuzius,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZJ0s6K5O,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T10:56:12.410+0000)

and unless you cheese how would you profit from this "huge advantage" adc have?

really, adc are in the trash bin right now, getting slapped back and forth in this meta, and this thread arises, claiming that adc are too powerful from the get go.

just please.

by poking your opponent out on the first couple of levels to gain an advantage and get into a position where youre covered by your minion wave and your opponent will lose the all in attempt?

why do you think ranged top laners shit on most melee champions so hard? its because they can put a load of pressure on them during the first couple of levels and snowball the lane off that singular advantage.

Sir Prepuzius1 votes

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by poking your opponent out on the first couple of levels to gain an advantage and get into a position where youre covered by your minion wave and your opponent will lose the all in attempt?

well, adc can poke each other out because they're ranged, so what? you call that "being effective" or "not requiring skill" or "being at advantage respect other classes"? you take any 2 mages bot and you get greatly outpoked so what point are you making here exactly?

why do you think ranged top laners shit on most melee champions so hard? its because they can put a load of pressure on them during the first couple of levels and snowball the lane off that singular advantage.

what that has to do with adc being too effective? of course ranged > melee in laning phase

Critmaster Garen1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sir Prepuzius,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZJ0s6K5O,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T11:32:21.351+0000)

well, adc can poke each other out

youre assuming that every champion in the game has ranged auto attacks and can poke back? or are you assuming that adc are only picked into other adc matchups, much less ranged champions?

both assumptions are wrong.

of course ranged > melee in laning phase

which is why adc are effective from lvl 1.

Mordepool1 votes

Exactly when are you talking about?

If your talking season 5-7 i will argue until im blue in the face. But if you are talking well before that, you might have a point.

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