Any buff/rework for Kayle on PBE coming soon?

SnugglePuggle94··11 votes·2,835 views

Let's face it, Kayle needs a rework or buff, as she can be very strong champion if hadn't been nerfed to hell and is completely irrevelant in this meta now. Has there been any word on if she will get one soon?

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Krinu3 votes

{{Champion:10}} main here.

She's actually really good in this meta, and was pretty good in the last meta, too. Her nerfs hurt her ability to burst enemy champions to death before they could react (E->Q->AA = dead enemy), but left her sustained damage pretty high, and her utility has always been strong. It's also my personal opinion that burst damage isn't really an intended part of her kit. Her passive rewards longer fights, her ult is set up to counter burst (enabling longer fights), and rather than a strict dash to engage, she has a heal that has a nice move speed buff attached to it.

But anyway! Metas.

In the assassin meta, she was strong because her ult gave her one of the few ways to hard-counter glass cannons. It wasn't the most reliable thing in the world, but with good play you could seriously piss off an enemy assassin by negating their entire flashy combo. I've lost track of the number of times I've baited an enemy Annie or Talon into wasting their entire combo into my ult.

In the tank meta, she's also strong, because her passive synergizes amazingly well with your ADC and rewards long fights. For extra hilarity, build Black Cleaver - after the sixth autoattack, all your enemies are missing over half their armor. I drink the tears of Rammus whenever I'm playing Kayle mid and our ADC just blows him up through his armored shell.

She does have some weaknesses, sure. Her early game is downright awful, she requires a ton of gear to do well, she's very vulnerable to attack speed reductions, and she doesn't have any "hard" mobility. But champions without obvious weaknesses (Hi, Kalista! 'Sup, Zed!) haven't exactly engendered a lot of positive feedback.

To be honest, I'd be afraid afraid of changing her. Buff her early game and she ends up without meaningful weaknesses. Buff her late game and she goes from "very strong" to "downright overpowered." Buff her utility and she ends up with more utility than freaking dedicated supports, and that's before she gets items.

GG Noob Team1 votes

From when someone who played only 27 games on the certain champion is considered a mainer? -_- I played her since season 1 and at this moment, she is as weak as she has been on the season 2 and after rework or even worse. She needs too many items to become any usefull. Her base damage at the early game is weak, she has only 60 base on Q, with big mana costs on q and w as well. This champion IS DEAD, noone plays her, because how stupidly underpowered she is in terms of numbers and mechanics. She is viable sure, but against bots. Thanks.

CreationFlaw2 votes

1.9% playrate OP. But no, she's likely to be ignored until season six or so, if she even does get attention

Alpha Dog72 votes

your post is 100% true

Bisaknosp2 votes

imo they should revert the attsp per level change and give her e a little more scaling or at least base damage

Imotekh Kharn1 votes

Ya but she was pretty op before she got nerfed much like Kassadin was. You can also play her pretty much anywhere and be succesful

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

I play her mostly as support in ranked (rarely jungle or top) and have 89% winrate, but don't spam her often, because she is one of the most boring champions in the game.

Fallen Akeno1 votes

In all honesty Kayle is tank buster, her passive eats through armour and magic resist. Her abilities may be a bit weaker but her passive is what makes her still really strong (plus her ulti late game is a life saver).

GG Noob Team1 votes

IN all honesty, kayle passive suck balls. You have to auto attack 5 times to benefit any from this shitty passive, xin zhao has 15% from the 1 hit on the reduction he needs.

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